html table problem still (12 posts)

  1. MrPissedoff
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Read the forums. googled etc.. managed to switch off the Visual Editor as stated by a few ppl.

    Still my tables r fucked.. and im being driven insane to the point i want to kill everyone.. 2hrs 30 mins so far i ben trying to sort this.

    anyone know how to get wordpress 2.5 (the new one) to just show basic HTML boxes in pages/ posts ?

    please im dying a slow painful death with it.

  2. csleh
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Have you tried:

    - the plugin that takes all automatic wp tags out (I think disable auto p)

    - make sure all table tags are there and appropriate (closed, etc)

    - make sure the table works with the doctype

    - make sure the table isn't bigger than the container set in the template being used

  3. MrPissedoff
    Posted 8 years ago #

    what the plug in called ? what am i looking for in plug in library ?

    searched for "disable auto" nothing ..

    tables r all formatted right..
    are tables not compatible with all Doctypes ?
    table not bigger than container table is ="100%" should fit to suit

    ~Its only 3 colum of data :(

  4. deuced
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Tables works fine in code editor, i ve tried lots of combinations and never had a problem. Could it be something in your theme CSS that gives them different style?

  5. MrPissedoff
    Posted 8 years ago #

    deuced u got me thinkiing (and experimenting) . and i found it to be my H2 tags were pushing the HTML Table out.. so not table after all..

    4 hrs later.. align="left" and 4 <br clear="all" /> Tags and it actually sites where i want it to be..

    man i hate Firefox and IE rendering problems with a passion.. They should both be shot.

  6. Ivovic
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I blame browsers sometimes too, but I suck at web development.

  7. alexleonard
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Well, table management in WP still leaves a lot to be desired.

    I'm being driven mental by it.

    It would be fine if I knew it was just for my purposes, but in the case where you're developing a site for a client, you can't be sure that they won't accidentally revert into visual editor mode. In fact, you definitely can't be sure.

    So then you get fun and games rendering out like:

    <td>some text that you used to have wrapped in a p element
    <p>Another line in a p</p>

    What's the problem with that? Well try getting your style sheets to play nicely with it.

    Also there's the joyous:

    [rest of table here]

    WordPress is quite insistent on that.

    Basically I am coming to the conclusion that tables in word press are unusable, unless you're very familiar with html.

    Surely TinyMCE have sorted out a solid way to handle inserting tables?!

    I've tried plugins abound, but nothing is solid enough for me to be happy to hand it over to a client. Alex Rabe's wp-table was fairly good, but I don't think that's the best solution. You're left wondering what that inserted table is, and then you have to wander off to another area to "manage tables", instead of just being able to enter a table in the visual editor. Also, that plugin hasn't been updated in a while, so I doubt it plays nicely with 2.5+

    Please please please sort it out. I promise I'll only use it for tabular data. There are some times that it does actually make semantic sense you know...!

  8. mikey1
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi there, I've found tiny MCE Advanced a great help as it includes tables.
    Also, and even though many will not agree with me, its one thing that
    windows Live Writer does quite well, I now use it a lot just for convenience.

  9. alexleonard
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Thanks for the tips mikey1

    I downloaded tiny MCE advanced just after I posted that, but I haven't checked it out yet. I am hoping that it will solve my worries.

    I don't think Live Writer will be the solution for our clients though. It's a whole other kettle of fish then ;)

  10. mikey1
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hope it works out for you.

  11. alexleonard
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Cheers Mike - I hope so too. It has always seemed strange to me that tables were so neglected in a default wp install. Hurrah for plugins!


  12. alexleonard
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Tiny MCE Advanced looks like the solution alright. Finally got round to testing it out today.

    I absolutely love the fact that I can enable showing of p's and br's in HTML view.

    Looking good!

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