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  • slkfsdf8y34ljhsfsdfkuhfkl84hj

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    Hi,

    I get that this plugin is an answer to the rising share of Wix and Squarespace. However I think the reason why people choose these two platforms other than the self-hosted WordPress is their simplicity, not their block style of editing.

    To be honest, at first I was glad that there would be a block style of editing, I was thinking it could actually be faster for editing and better organized, I was wrong.

    I can compare this plugin very much to what Microsoft did with Windows 8, not Windows 8.1. It was something trendy, but people didn’t think much about it. You have multiple devices these days – mobile devices – standard size phones, phablets, tablets, laptops, 2-in-1 laptops and then you have desktops, some of which have the rising trend of widescreens with them. Just as you can’t force a Metro app as a calculator to be a fullscreen app on Windows 8 on an ultrawide or big monitor like 27″, you can do that with this kind of editor.

    I have a 27″ iMac, for me this interface of the current Gutenberg editor is leading to a huge waste of time comparing to the current editor. In order to do a simple task I have to do so much clicks, scrolls and selections in comparison to a simple one click on the classic editor or a keyboard key.

    When you have to edit a 3000 words page I think that will cost me more than 30 or 60 minutes and this is not an exaggeration.

    I like to split and rearrange text on the go, change paragraphs etc. In order to do that with the new editor, I have to waste so much time on clicking and selecting that I really don’t understand how this will be practical at all.

    I believe that if this editor should be working on desktop, it should not be hidden in a “+” sign, it should be available as the classic editor with all of its buttons presented on a screen so that you could use just one click, without selecting any insert signs, without the need to scroll etc.

    The other thing that will be needed is a much easier block creation, probably an autoblock creation or merging, when people change paragraphs.

    In the current state I believe that editor will lead to what Windows 8 lead and what the Snapchat redesign lead. It is clearly going against what the demand is and this free market will react. Forcing something upon people, which they clearly do not like and you can see the reviews here and the tons of articles on the web as well, will lead to the majority of the people using the classic editor.

    It will be marketing and market failure for WordPress and it will damage the reputation of the otherwise great so far CMS.

    Another move that could be suitable is that you can present both editors on install, not requiring people to install any other “classic” plugin etc. When both editors are in the core and people could select them, you can probably put a voluntarily telemetry to see how many people use the classic and how many use the modern editor, that will tell you clearly over time where the demand is.

    Please take at the number of one star reviews here, if you don’t understand what they mean, than the company and it’s community which is developing this plugin are in a much worse situation than you were thinking.

    Kind Regards

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  • @ogalinski – While there’s validity to your point – detailed reviews are more helpful – I’d point out that plugin developers on the WP repo have dealt with these kinds of reviews forever. They are not useless – they reflect users instinctive reaction to a product, and – in the aggregate – can tell you a lot about how much users like a plugin.

    It’s also well known that WP reviewers are fickle. If they don’t like particular components of a plugin, they often go straight from five stars to one star. Again, common experience for the thousands of plugin devs.

    I guess the point is that while I sympathize with your concerns, Gutenberg is being evaluated the same way, by the same standards, and with the same kinds of reviews, as every other plugin on the repo. To the extent that such reviews are valid for any plugin, they are valid for Gutenberg.

    @edanzer

    I’m pretty aware of how it is around here regarding reviews in general, and I understand your point. However, right is right, even if everyone is against it, and wrong is wrong, even if everyone is for it. I don’t agree that because the majority does it is valid for Gutenberg or for any plugin. It’s your opinion and I respect it, but I don’t agree with it.

    Wow I can’t believe this after earlier defending Gutenberg as being similar to the transition from DOS to Windows or Windows 3.1 to ultimately Windows 10, people don’t like change. But after three days with Gutenberg I couldn’t handle it and had to remove it, it was getting in my way more than helping and I couldn’t afford the time to go in and edit my layout in text editor.

    I’m legitimately disappointed that I had to take this action, but I don’t know what else to do at this time in order to maintain some productivity.

    I’m also against the Gutenberg install ‘as it is now’. I think the grave mistake that the WP and Gutenberg Devs have done is release a solution that is not anywhere near complete, it is less than 50% complete even now if you read all the issues people are having.

    While I am sure Gutenberg will improve it should have not been released public wide, a closed group yes but not the whole community.

    Once a more robust, more user friendly editor ‘that works’ without costing time was ready then release it.

    If anyone says that it was ready for release when it did has some big thoughts to have to define for themselves what ‘ready for release’ really means, Gutenberg is still not there.

    Many one liner comments can be just as valued as the lengthy reviews. I see this as not enough time has been put into place to make Gutenberg ‘ready for release’, so likewise many have put in ‘little comment/feedback’ as Gutenberg deserves little else, it is still not ready.

    • This reply was modified 11 months, 2 weeks ago by  gwmbox.

    Thank you very much for a very detail review since the first release of the plugin. I total agree with all of points, especially about an option for users can switch between two editors without installing any extra plugin or they can just simple allow [INSERT MEDIA] button on Classic Block. Without this feature in Gutenberg, my posting time increased three times compare to Classic Editor.

    Hope with this constructive reply, Gutenberg team can hear and try to apply that feature so we can stop all these headache debates.

    Regards.

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