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[closed] Goodbye and good luck to all. (26 posts)

  1. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'm out of the blogging business. I'm through trying to manage a site using WordPress. It is no longer fun, and the constant maintenance of all the plugins (if you can find them) and the spam tools and the themes and everything else has made me realise that my online experience has become more about the tool and less about the community and the creative work that I wish to do.

    I don't code, nor create plugins or themes. My contribution was to try to help build a community, since I had no other skills to offer. I've been pushed to the periphery, and am simply ignored as a disgruntled user. So be it.

    WordPress is a great tool. The developers are all very skilled and have worked very hard. The contributing coders and plugin writers and theme designers have done much to enhance the toolset. I sincerely thank them all for their dedication to the project. In addition to them, I'm very thankful for the many folks who have pitched in to develop Codex. What a Herculean effort they have made and Codex now bears the fruit of this oft-maligned and thankless task. I'm glad to be able to say that I enjoyed working with some of you on that project.

    I'm saddened that many requests and suggestions have seemingly fallen off the radar, or appear to be ignored. The support forums themselves have been the subject of much criticism for a long time, and I don't sense an urgency to deal with those issues. The push is to forward the toolkit, and, in my opinion, it's at the expense of the users. Many people ask about and think about the next version of WordPress, and while that is always important to keep in mind, a pause and retooling of the WordPress community resources are long past due.

    There are too many places to try and track all of the plugins, hacks, themes, tutorials, and documents associated with WordPress. I have become increasingly agitated by the difficulty of trying to find the right plugin here or the right setup information there. I can only imagine how daunting this must be for a new user.

    I want to make special mention of one man who has done so much to help so many - Podz. Thank you so much for all that you have done, usually with little or no thanks or the recognition that is usually attributed to the coders. You are a credit to the community, and I'm proud to call you my friend. I wish you much success and happiness, Podz.

    I extend my sincere thanks to all those who have ever visited my site, shared a laugh or debate, or have supported me in a myriad of ways during some troubled times. You are the essence of community.

    To all who visit this forum and offer support, advice, feedback, and opinions of all kinds, I thank you as well. Keep up the good work, and don't ever let the project become more important than those it serves.

    All of my sites have been taken down. I am now totally offline, and at this time, I do now what the future holds for the online presence of Nuclear Moose.

    Best wishes to you all.
    Signing off,
    Craig Hartel
    a.k.a. Nuclear Moose.

  2. Basilisk
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'm sad to see you go; I remember that you were the first person to help me when I first set up a blog in late 2003, before even the release of 1.0.

    Enjoy your time offline :)

  3. Jinsan
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Good luck in your endeavours Moose. I'm sure everyone you've helped has appreciated the time and effort you've put into these forums, and into the community itself.

    Cheers

  4. dss
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    what a shame...

    you'll be deeply missed.

  5. JuneBleeds
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    This is sad news... Good luck to you, Moose!

  6. KarlB
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Very sorry to see you go NuclearMoose :(

    I am not that knowledgable and you and many others have helped me in the past. But I have to say you make a valid point about the support forums. This time last year the forums were a much friendlier place than they are today. I guess some may call that progress because WP has been such a success in the last 17 months since I first registered.

    Anyway all the best and thank you.
    Karl

  7. ifelse
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    It's a shame to see you go but I wish you all the best.

  8. DianeV
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Sorry to see you go, NuclearMoose. You and podz and a few others are real stable points in these forums. You will be missed.

  9. NorthernPassages
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Best wishes Moose

  10. neon
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    May you be just as nuclear in your next online life, Craig. Enjoy your rest. Thanks for everything.

  11. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I too will miss you. You haven't posted often lately, but when you have it's been to the point and helpful, unlike much else. Your past postings, when I've run across them due to searching for answers to my questions as a fairly new user, have ALWAYS helped me to an understanding.

    Best of luck in whatever your future holds.

  12. hisyam
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    you will not be forgotten...

  13. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Hey, Craig, got room in that boat? I'll buy the next round of beer....

    To everyone else: I’m not going to even begin to pretend that I’ll be missed, so save it. I know I won’t be missed.

    Tg

  14. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    TG - I WILL miss you. I enjoy your no-nonsense viewpoint.

  15. Jonathan Landrum
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    You know, this sucks. I'm new here, too, and have made a few friends on this forum just in the last two weeks. However, Craig has a good point. It's a war zone on this forum. You ask a simple question (like Craig did the other day), and you get blasted from all sides. The only reason I haven't left is because I do code, and enjoy it. I stick around on the forums in order to help people, but I get blasted for that, too. I have the email addresses of a couple of the people who have been more than helpful in my short tenure here. TechGnome is right; screw the forums. I'll ask my friends for advice from now on.

    ~Jonathan

  16. bambam4479
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Moose and TG - its a sad day seeing you go, best of luck

  17. Cypher
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    The forums can indeed be a war zone sometimes and some of the most vetern folks are usually to be blamed for inciting it.

    Most novices/newbees come here without much prior knowledge of WP, or forums or blogging and get blasted lack of knowledge and that's not right.

    But hard to control the posters on a volunteer, and largely open forums.

    @ Moose and TG, whatever you reasons are leaving, good luck.

    Regards

  18. shiner25
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    dude.. its not a shame.. outsource the work if you dont have time and cant be bothered.. dont moan about it.. or go get a blogger.com account

  19. Palindrome
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    You leave a lot Moose. Last time I was here you were leaving cause of spammers. I hope you change your mind again, rather than ceding defeat.

  20. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 10 years ago #

    jonlandrum - hey, woah, simmer down now.... it was *never* my intention to say "screw the forums." It has it's place. And has nothing to do with my leaving WP.

    My issues go beyond the forums, and in no way impact how I feel about the community. There's a wonderful community here, and it shouldn't fall apart. It's seen worse and it will see worse, and it'll survive somehow. It always seems to. However this dissillusioned gnome's needs have changed and I'm no longer interested in running things as they are. It's an evolution, just like all things.

    Tg

  21. injinuity
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Sorry to see you go nuclear moose, hope you reconsider your decision... its always a sad day when old timers go.. anyways good luck and god bless.

  22. desk003
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Really sorry to see you go Moose. You've helped me much.

  23. rohitkumar
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    It's about time something like this happened. The day I conquer WP, I will join you...

  24. latinastyln
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    ...this all seems way to serious.

  25. whooami
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    indeed, latinastyln. moose is a decent guy but god knows this forum (like many others, btw) is littered with egos way too big for them to sustain themselves over the long run.

    Combine that with the recent rapid growth that wp has seen and you are bound to get sore feelings as those egos go unstroked by the same old people. See the recent "oh the wp forums are growing, things are changing so much, woe is me" posts on some of the "regular" members own blogs for proof of that.

  26. That has to be the most inconsiderate comment that I've heard in a long time. Craig (NuclearMoose) is a real person, a good person, and a far better person than I am. Ever since he started here, Craig has devoted most of his free time to volunteering support in these forums. He has helped both those who deserve his help and those who deserve far less, and in return, he has asked for nothing. In all honesty, he has been one of the leaders of these forums. To pass him off as just another ego is one of the biggest insults that I have ever read in these forums.

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