[closed] Get rid of that admin bar! (25 posts)

  1. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I suppose it's understandable, to say the very least, that WP developers look to wordpress.com for cues. But that absurdly introduced admin bar is not an option, no: it's by default hung out on the outside for logged in admin users - oh by the way, I can't easily find where to shut it down: strike two - and it's styled in a way that perhaps pleases the developers, but it's in my face and therefor likely to irritate me.

    Which it does. Obviously.

    Search? Again a search form? What, afraid that people can't find the search form that practically every theme already has? Or is it such a vital feature that even those who chose not to have it must stare at its ugly mug nonetheless?

    Also, I totally do not care for presumptively snazzy but totally insignificant (non-quantified) aggregate "statistics" graphics on the outside, and several of the functions chosen by the developers to put it in that admin bar are ridiculously arbitrary. So there's one-click access to menu management from the front-end, but no one-click access to spam comments? Pulleez.

    It's an abomination, and it must go.

    And "innovations" should, more than anything, be optional - not switched in and on by default.

    Sorry guys, this is a seriously bad case of a nice try without asking.

    I have no idea what else 3.1 does compared to 3.0.5 (forgive me but I don't have time to plow through the release note, what with that irritating "Upgrade now!" message that I can't switch off either) but all that baggage has not been worth the immense hassle of checking on compatible plugins. And of course, finding some that force a back-gration to 3.0.5 again. At least I won't have to look at my site looking like it wants to be wordpress.com anymore.

  2. Clayton James
    Posted 5 years ago #

    1) It can be disabled easily per user profile.

    2) So get rid of it globally. It's 60 seconds worth of effort.


  3. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    That's 60 seconds I prefer to spend elsewhere.

    And you're kidding, right? A "feature" that requires a plugin to get rid of it? What kind of "solution" is that?

    It's a ridiculous, unnecessary and brainless addition, and for those who perhaps see some purpose in it, it shouldn't have been switched on by default.

    I've gone through many iterations of WP, with some innovations more useful than others since the 1.5.x series; this one beats 'em all in perfectly useless irritability.

  4. Thank you for your opinion. We disagree.

    And this is a support forum, not a place for you to vent. You have a blog for that.

  5. sabinou
    Posted 5 years ago #

    For heaven's sake, Nv1962, you should feel grateful that you live in an era where people spend so much time brining you a software that allows you to whine over details that are esily adaptable anyway.

    Go to Users > Your username > Scroll down.

  6. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    (edited afterward: I'm referring to Otto, just to clarify...) I'm glad you thought better of closing this topic: look at the front page of the Forums, under the Requests and Feedback you'll see "– Feature requests; criticism."

    And that's what this is.


    Which arguably is unpleasant for those who spent a lot of otherwise appreciated time on developing WP, but that's how the cookie crumbles. Not all creations are as felicitous as they are laborious to implement.

  7. Clayton James
    Posted 5 years ago #

    That's 60 seconds I prefer to spend elsewhere.

    Yeah... Well, we are all entitled to our opinions, no matter how they are perceived, and I will respect yours as well.

    This addition has been publicized for some time now, as well as the solutions for turning it off. So your choices are:

    1) do nothing and keep complaining about it,

    2) take 60 seconds and turn it off globally using a plugin and forget about it,

    3) apply the filter directly to your themes functions.php file to avoid a plugin.

  8. sabinou
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Hey, therere's a 4th option, in the Users menu too, don't forget it, it's the simplest and fastest way for the typical mono-user.

  9. Okay, let's not bash nv1962 - His opinion is his and he is as entitled to it as I am for wanting to force the bar ON all the time.

    FYI, if you like the bar but not the search?

  10. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Awesome. Criticism of criticism. This must be the internet.

    But a plugin to defeat a feature, instead of switch and making it thus optional? Doesn't sound logical to me.

    Then again, this is the internet.

  11. nv1962: There IS an option, as has been pointed out many times.

    Go to Users->Your Profile. Look at the screen for the checkbox.

  12. Clayton James
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Awesome. Criticism of criticism. This must be the internet.

    If you can only give it but can't receive it, perhaps you don't belong here (on the internet).

    Not all creations are as felicitous as they are laborious to implement.

    Yup. I would have to completely agree with you. Except that I think you are intentionally exacerbating the issue for personal satisfaction at this point. "Laborious" at his juncture, has completely lost it's context. It's not "laborious" at all in fact, and I perceive you as simply being argumentative at this point. But that doesn't lessen my respect for your opinion, mind you.

    And if you review, you will find that you don't "need" a plugin to turn it off.

  13. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Otto, the problem is that it's switched on by default. How is it more logical to have it switched off in the dashboard but not when viewing the site? If not having it on in the dashboard (and by the way, I agree that that's a good default) then it shouldn't have been on on the outside either.

    I suppose I understand the rationale behind that, though: it's a simple way to "advertise" the new feature, and then people can always opt to switch it off. It's just that this addition is very much "in your face" and although it's great that one developer saw fit to release a plugin to switch it off - one per site, sadly not really globally - is not a "friendly" approach.

    That's all... I don't think there's much point in rehashing this; I just see it as a nuisance, and I readily accept many will think it's neat. Again, this is the internet.

    Edited to add: and that includes my not further engaging back-and-forths on the merit of my criticism here by itself, ClaytonJames. You have your obviously respectable opinion; I don't think we'll reach an agreement here just by denying or repeating what's already been said.

  14. That was discussed, ad naseum, months and months ago. Last summer, actually.

    It was determined that more people would USE it if they turned it on by default, among other things. This was announced back in .. October I think? I know the first 'How to turn if off' plugin showed up in November last year. It was announced all over the place.

    There's a break point at which you simply can't get to everyone, you accept whom you've gotten to, and you move on. So duly noted, but it's not going away at this point.

  15. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    (OK, just having a bit of lighthearted fun here...)

    That was discussed, ad naseum, months and months ago.
    So the dark side won, huh...

    (ducks and runs)

  16. Alvaro Degives-Mas
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Just to close this one down: after looking into Ozh' plugin (Ozh, you really rock) I realized that the whole admin bar is in fact switchable with a single, simple line for a filter, which if included in the theme's function.php file will kill the admin bar full stop, no plugin necessary.

    Just add the following line, somewhere into the functions.php file of your theme(s):

    add_filter( 'show_admin_bar', '__return_false' );

    And gone it is.

    And yes, this is exactly what Ozh' plugin does too, except this method is a hack of the theme to make sure it's permanently gone, regardless of whether your plugins are activated or not.

  17. ryanve
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I like the admin bar. I want to keep it. The only prob. is that it's causing my "absolute" positioned <div>'s to be shifted out of place by the height of the bar OR it covers them up at the top. Since it only affects logged-in users, changing the css won't solve the problem. For example the admin bar covers the upper navigation on amplifiedny.com. It seems like this would affect a lot of people.

  18. The reason I tout the plugin is actually ONLY because you can shove it in the mu-plugins folder and then not fuss about it when you change themes. Helpful too for if you have clients. They can't turn OFF a plugin in mu-plugins without FTPing it.

    And yes, it works on regular WordPress (not JUST MultiSite).

    ryanve - You can add in CSS to customize the Admin Bar itself, and maybe in THERE adjust the bump. Mind you, I fixed it by turning the admin bar on for everyone and put in the css bump ;) Also, please make your own topic for how to do that. This isn't a support post.

  19. The only prob. is that it's causing my "absolute" positioned <div>'s to be shifted out of place

    No method of adding the bar would work for all sites. The method being used was determined to be the most compatible after several different methods were tried.

    Most themes don't use absolute positioned blocks on their pages, because they're problematic to begin with.

  20. rogersjosephjr
    Posted 5 years ago #

    OH Ok, math problems, Love em.

    So 60 seconds if your already logged into a site.
    If your not and each site is at a different domain. 5 Minutes Per Customer Site, including Logging in testing and logging out.

    At over 130 sites = 10.834 Hours spent

    Not to mention that When you click on a Category, You get a 404 error? WTF..

  21. pagameba
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I like the bar (but it doesn't work for my site so I'm eliminating it) - I think it was probably a mistake to inject it into every theme for every logged in user by default without even an option to turn it off by default (there should have been an option for this I think). A less contentious approach might have been to have it off by default and a hierarchy of options to turn it on (wp default setting, per-user setting, theme tag to draw it, per-user-type setting, ...)

  22. Scott Kingsley Clark
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I just released a plugin that gives you some more control over which user roles see the admin bar, in case that helps any of you.


  23. ryanve
    Posted 5 years ago #

    @ Ipstenu and Otto Thanks :)

  24. rgbk
    Posted 5 years ago #

    It's pretty simple: It broke my layout!
    That is NOT good.
    The fact that you have to install a plugin to make a 'feature' that ruins your layout go away is mental and bad practice. Bad move WordPress.

  25. MistahWrite
    Posted 5 years ago #

    My vote is WordPress should have a setting for:

    a) Admin bar On by default (default),
    b) Admin bar Off by default, or...
    c) Disable Admin bar

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