Title: Feature requests? Last modified: August 22, 2016 --- # Feature requests? * Resolved [Summer](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fpmsummer/) * (@fpmsummer) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/) * First off, I love this plugin. I had been using a combination of Akismet and Conditional Captcha, mainly because Conditional Captcha had an option to clean up after Akismet since that feature in Akismet doesn’t work, and keeping the commentsmeta table from blowing up to 50Mb or more was a welcome development. * But I don’t think Spamshield and Conditional Captcha play well together (from the instructions about having additional captchas installed), so on a couple of sites I’ve actually removed both Akismet and Conditional Captcha, and the spam has stayed unposted and unseen. Thank you. * The one downside I’ve seen so far is where I have Gravity Forms installed. Akismet was preventing spam submissions from being emailed to the form distributions list, and now some of those are starting to slip through. * Is there any possibility of a future version of Spamshield hooking in with Gravity Forms to protect those forms from spam? The built in contact form will never suffice for what I need, but if it could protect my Gravity Forms, that would be awesome. * In any case, thank you thank you thank you for this plugin and what it already does! * [https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-spamshield/](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-spamshield/) Viewing 8 replies - 1 through 8 (of 8 total) * Plugin Contributor [redsand](https://wordpress.org/support/users/redsand/) * (@redsand) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240124) * Hi fpmsummer, * Thank you…I’m glad you love the plugin. 🙂 * WP-SpamShield uses a different method than Akismet for stopping spam, so as of right now there aren’t any plans to have it hook in with Gravity Forms. I will look into it and see if it’s possible though. You can still use Akismet at the same time as WP-SpamShield though if you need it to protect your Gravity Forms… the two plugins will play nice together. * I hope that helps. * – Scott * Thread Starter [Summer](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fpmsummer/) * (@fpmsummer) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240175) * Is the same true for Conditional Captcha? * If WP-SpamShield also won’t be affected by that being enabled at the same time, then things would be golden… that plugin has an “Akismet Enhanced Mode” that is invaluable in keeping the size of the commentsmeta table reasonably sized ( which is really the only reason I want to get rid of Akismet, it’s failure to clean up comment histories like the description says it will) * This plugin: [http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-conditional-captcha/](http://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-conditional-captcha/) * Plugin Contributor [redsand](https://wordpress.org/support/users/redsand/) * (@redsand) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240182) * I don’t know about Conditional Captcha, but we advise not using CAPTCHA’s with WP-SpamShield. You don’t need to use it anyway because WP-SpamShield will already keep spam out of the database. * Please review the [plugin documentation](http://www.redsandmarketing.com/plugins/wp-spamshield/) as most of this is discussed there, especially the Features, How It Works, And FAQs sections. * Thread Starter [Summer](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fpmsummer/) * (@fpmsummer) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240217) * Alas, the problem isn’t using the captcha, it’s Akismet itself. * Since being introduced in Akismet v2.5, it has been storing “comment histories”, tracking what’s been marked as spam, what comments have been approved by admins or manually marked as spam by admins. Instructions also used to give admins the option to tell Akismet to clean up after itself after 30 days. * This option never worked, from Day One of it being implemented. I found this out the hard way when I tried moving one of my sites, and the commentsmeta table was 90Mb, while the comments table was a little more than 55Mb. * There is no solution for this problem, other than go into your database and manually run a couple of SQL calls to clean it out. You’ll see that table drop from 25Mb to 5k in an instant. * As as bonus, as of Akismet v3.0, they don’t even have the option for “clean up” listed anymore. So people who pay attention to these things need a better option to keep that bad Akismet behavior in check, and for me the WP Conditional Captcha plugin was doing the trick. In addition to providing captchas, it was removing comment histories on the fly 🙂 * Doing a search on “akismet+commentmeta” yields some interesting commentaries and angry end users, both on the web and in the WP.org forums. * Although now I’m finding a plugin called WP Clean Up that may also do what I need… time to test that out! * Anyway, thanks for a wonderful spam plugin… I’m planning on a write up of my favorite plugins for 2014, and this one is at the top. * Plugin Contributor [redsand](https://wordpress.org/support/users/redsand/) * (@redsand) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240224) * Ah, I see. That would be extremely frustrating. On all the sites we work on, I make sure we keep the database size down, to keep them running smoothly. WOW… 90MB and 55MB are insanely large, and that’s just not necessary. You can have a site with hundreds of posts and pages where the entire DB is less than 10MB. * You’re very welcome! Thank you…I really appreciate that. 🙂 Let me know if I can ever help again. * Thread Starter [Summer](https://wordpress.org/support/users/fpmsummer/) * (@fpmsummer) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240295) * Yep, I reinstalled Conditional Captcha, and my total database size shrank down from 110Mb to 90Mb, comments table down to 21Mb and commentmeta back down to a reasonable 4Mb. * To be honest, this site has been an active WP site since late 2005 or early 2006, so almost 9 years of posts & comments can add up. WP Spamshield has only been on the site July or so (version 1.3.5), and it’s already blocked almost 100k spam comments. * So if you think about the millions of spam comments Akismet has handled over the years, with Akismet never cleaning up after itself like they’ve been promising it would since the day it was added with WP 2.5, you can see why so many people are disappointed that the WP people don’t fix that first instead of adding other bells and whistles that don’t improve performance as much as this one thing could. * Since they seem to work together, and I need Akismet to prevent spamming of my Gravity Forms on that site, together all three shall stay 🙂 * Plugin Contributor [redsand](https://wordpress.org/support/users/redsand/) * (@redsand) * [11 years, 8 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240296) * Right on…that’s a MUCH better size. * That’s excellent news that it’s blocked 100k spam since July. Hearing things like that are very rewarding…because that’s exactly why I made the plugin…to be a hardcore solution for hardcore spam. Your site is definitely one of the harder hit sites out there. * Yeah, I agree… that is disappointing about Akismet. Development should focus on core functionality before bells and whistles. * I’m glad you have everything working smoothly now. It sounds like you have a good combo. 🙂 * Plugin Contributor [redsand](https://wordpress.org/support/users/redsand/) * (@redsand) * [10 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240376) * Hey fpmsummer, * I just wanted to follow up with you…WP-SpamShield now has anti-spam support for Gravity Forms, Contact Form 7 and more. * Thought you’d like to know! * Have a good one. * – Scott Viewing 8 replies - 1 through 8 (of 8 total) The topic ‘Feature requests?’ is closed to new replies. * ![](https://s.w.org/plugins/geopattern-icon/wp-spamshield_08293a.svg) * [WP-SpamShield](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-spamshield/) * [Frequently Asked Questions](https://wordpress.org/plugins/wp-spamshield/#faq) * [Support Threads](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-spamshield/) * [Active Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-spamshield/active/) * [Unresolved Topics](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-spamshield/unresolved/) * [Reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/plugin/wp-spamshield/reviews/) ## Tags * [Contact Form Spam](https://wordpress.org/support/topic-tag/contact-form-spam/) * 8 replies * 2 participants * Last reply from: [redsand](https://wordpress.org/support/users/redsand/) * Last activity: [10 years, 11 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/feature-requests-66/#post-5240376) * Status: resolved