Title: Avoid this one
Last modified: August 15, 2019

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# Avoid this one

 *  [educationservices](https://wordpress.org/support/users/educationservices/)
 * (@educationservices)
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/)
 * I don’t remember posting a negative review for a plugin before but this time 
   I have to. We paid for the pro version of Peepso and really wanted to love it
   but the continuous stream of updates that you can’t opt out of and remain supported
   felt more like perpetual beta testing and made it hard to consider going live
   with our site. We finally decided to pause until the platform stabilized but 
   then they billed us for renewal and would not reverse the charges even when notified
   immediately. That’s just unethical and not how an honest vendor works. Do yourself
   a favor and keep looking for another solution that’s stable and a vendor that
   won’t rip you off.

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 *  Plugin Author [PeepSo, Inc.](https://wordpress.org/support/users/peepso/)
 * (@peepso)
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/#post-11830167)
 * Hello,
 * Thank you for your review. The continuous stream of updates is there to make 
   sure that you receive the latest improvements, fixes and new features. We’re 
   worried about software that doesn’t get updated for weeks or months. It just 
   shows that developers either don’t put too much effort into their product or 
   don’t really care about it. PeepSo is a stable product that’s kept up to date.
 * When you decided to purchase the bundle, you’ve been notified upon purchase that
   it comes with a subscription. You’ve also must have agreed to the refund policy.
   It’s not possible to make a purchase without it.
 * We notify everyone about upcoming renewals a week before a payment is processed.
   You’ve had every single opportunity and tools to manage your subscription and
   renewal. We’ve done nothing unethical on our side of things. We’re very open 
   about everything and aren’t hiding any charges for any of our paid products.
 *  Moderator [Jan Dembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/)
 * (@jdembowski)
 * Forum Moderator and Brute Squad
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/#post-11830859)
 * [@peepso](https://wordpress.org/support/users/peepso/) Why did you tag this review“
   mod look, modlook”?
 * There is nothing here that needs any input from any moderator. This is a valid
   review.
 *  Plugin Author [PeepSo, Inc.](https://wordpress.org/support/users/peepso/)
 * (@peepso)
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/#post-11830867)
 * [@jdembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/) this review has
   very little or even nothing to do with the PeepSo plugin listed on: wordpress.
   org
 *  Moderator [Jan Dembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/)
 * (@jdembowski)
 * Forum Moderator and Brute Squad
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/#post-11830886)
 * You are wrong. And you invite all reviews like this when you upsell and use your
   plugin page as an advertisement for your services.
 * There are no customers here, just opensource users of code. There are no companies
   here, just people who have contributed their opensource code and time. Commercial,
   pro, refund conversations have no place in these forums.
 * _The one exception is reviews._ When a plugin or theme upsells either here or
   in the user’s dashboard then that feedback is permitted.
 * This review is feedback and it will be allowed to remain. Any of your customers
   for the “pro” or services _related to this plugin_ are invited to leave a review
   related to this plugin, premium or not.
 *  Plugin Contributor [Matt Jaworski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jaworskimatt/)
 * (@jaworskimatt)
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/#post-11833226)
 * Basically the 1* is because:
 * 1. there is nothing wrong with the plugin
    2. the user hates regular updates 
   3. the user signs legal contracts without reading T&C, clicks “I read and agree
   to refund policy” without either reading or agreeing to it 4. the client thus
   enters a legally binding paid subscription but then decides to keep their eyes
   firmly shut in hopes the renewal process won’t find them, instead of cancelling
   the sub 5. the client ignores automated e-mails warning them about an upcoming
   renewal 6. it’s now all our fault because we refuse to refund people who aren’t
   treating us seriously
 * And, as usual, the 1* that has nothing to do with the quality of the plugin and
   is based 100% on the users false “customer is always right” assumption – that
   stays forever as the mod team keeps deleting positive reviews “because reasons”.
    -  This reply was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by [Matt Jaworski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jaworskimatt/).
    -  This reply was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by [Matt Jaworski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jaworskimatt/).
    -  This reply was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by [Matt Jaworski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jaworskimatt/).
 *  Moderator [Jan Dembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/)
 * (@jdembowski)
 * Forum Moderator and Brute Squad
 * [6 years, 10 months ago](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/#post-11833455)
 * [@jaworskimatt](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jaworskimatt/) If you’ve 
   a problem with any of the moderation team then feel free to contact Otto via `
   otto[at]wordpress.org`. The moderators moderate the forums and he moderates them.
 * > And, as usual, the 1* that has nothing to do with the quality of the plugin
   > and is based 100% on the users false “customer is always right” assumption –
   > that stays forever as the mod team keeps deleting positive reviews “because
   > reasons”.
 * That’s gross misrepresentation and completely inaccurate. You intentionally disregarded
   the part where I explained [how you invited these reviews](https://wordpress.org/support/topic/avoid-this-one-2/?view=all#post-11830886).
 * When a review is removed it is always for cause and that’s always due to something
   abusive. You don’t have to like that and your agreement isn’t sought in those
   decisions.
 * If that’s too much for you then you have a recourse. Contact the plugins team
   via `plugins[at]wordpress.org` and ask them to close your plugin on the repo.
   I believe that will also prevent new reviews from being left though the old one
   will remain.
 * As this review and your reply have turned argumentative, I’m closing this review
   from further comments. As I wrote, feel free to contact Otto about this if you
   choose.
    -  This reply was modified 6 years, 10 months ago by [Jan Dembowski](https://wordpress.org/support/users/jdembowski/).
      Reason: Silly typo

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