Anybody clever enough to design a WYSIWYG template editor?

  • bumblebee

    (@bumblebee)


    18 years, 8 months ago

    Do you know what would be absolutely fantastic beyond belief? If somebody out there was clever, and bored, enough to create a WYSIWYG WordPress template editor, especially for the CSS pages, but also with the main content.

    I mean, how brilliant would that be for newbies? We could have the option of editing the code, too, so that we could gradually learn what we were doing…at the moment, I’m freaking out because I have no idea how to come up with a really original layout design, and it’s all more or less “poking a stick in the dark” as to what the layout will look like when I’m done with it.

    Are there any such programs already out there? If so, I’d love to get my hands on it. 🙂 Otherwise, if you or somebody you know is interested in creating one, then…

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  • Beel

    (@beel)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    I built my first in ’74 with 15k of memory after I read an article in an electronics magazine – my parents thought I was nuts putting out all my lawn mowing money for a “toy”. Apple and Commodore came out a couple of years later as I recall. Not many around here probably remember the 8080 and 8088 IBM chips.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Okay you too…play nice and I’ll seeya’ back in here later.
    Be well!
    Rob.

    Mark (podz)

    (@podz)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Beel – no :p

    kwanza

    (@kwanza)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Thanks for those two links and yes I did check the codex but obviously missed these somehow. That is totally what I was talking about!

    As to many of the comments that followed mine, they are pretty smug. I am self-taught as well and build my own computers. Why the comment about magic wands and 12-year olds? I take stuff and break it apart but just because lessons in the codex are easier for some to understand and others not, it doesn’t call for the snarkiness. Maybe just better tutorials?

    More to the point I specifically stated that as a newbie I didn’t really want a WYSIWYG but tutorials more like the links that were posted. Rather than post about how long smart you are prove it and build a WYSIWYG template editor like the post suggests, instead of being contemptuous.

    kwanza

    (@kwanza)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Oh and one more thing. THIS LINK: http://www.urbangiraffe.com/2005/04/12/themeguide1/1/

    Was very helpful and *gasp* not in the codex. Thanks again to the person that posted it.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    kwanza, none of that was aimed at you. Sorry you took it that way.
    I was speaking of those who always want the easy way out and don’t care to learn and experiment.
    It was sort of a heads-up to those people. Ya’ know? This isn’t FrontPage or Homestead.
    Personally I hope to never see a WYSIWYG associated with WordPress.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    “Rather than post about how long smart you are prove it and build a WYSIWYG template editor like the post suggests, instead of being contemptuous.”

    I never claimed to be “long smart”

    Why would I want to build a WYSIWYG when there are already ways to develop your theme and preview them? Besides, if you read what I wrote you would realize that I’m against them. Were moving forward with this thing called The Internet…not backwards. You want a WYSIWYG template editor. YOU build one and stop crying. I’m not your Mother.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    I meant that last part as a joke. One thing you don’t want to be in here is sensitive. I’m bound to be ripped on and yelled at in here for questions I’ll be asking.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    kwanza,
    This might be of interest.
    Hell, I might even check it out just for use in faster posting.
    But I don’t think it’s an all-out Frontpage type of WYSIWYG.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    DOPE! I fotgot eh URL
    http://mudbomb.com/archives/2005/02/02/wysiwyg-plugin-for-wordpress/
    See, I’m not as bright as you think I am.

    Joebar

    (@joebar)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Here’s a good WYSIWYG editor for those not willing to dig in and play with code.

    moshu

    (@moshu)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    I guess the last two posts went away from the OP. The original question was not about a wysiwyg post editor, but about a template editor…

    billsaysthis

    (@billsaysthis)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Personally I’m happy to dig in with code. But in the bigger picture, meaning how does WordPress get adopted by as many blog writers as reasonably possible, the comments in this thread are way off base and more than a little arrogant.

    *puts on flame-retardent underwear*
    Having a WYSIWYG template tool doesn’t mean that those of us who enjoy it won’t still dig in to the code but I don’t understand why you would suggest this is the best path for everyone. To me that’s the same as saying everyone should have to learn WordPerfect formatting codes (or LaTeX) to style their documents. Some people would rather spend their time and effort on creating content and not building a system, but they’d still like to have a personalized site design.

    For those of you who prefer the handbuilt way, do you use any plugins? For that matter, why are you even using WordPress when clearly you ought to be developing your own software instead of being lazy and using WP? Carberator, Beel, I’m looking at you.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Lazy? Build our own system? You’re really reaching, Billy.
    My original site was built from scratch using xhtml and css. That’s going thru a redesign and I’m using WordPress to keep my viewers up to date until the new design is launched.
    What makes me laugh are the millions of people who rely on WYSIWYG editors to build their sites, and never learning what goes into it behind the scenes. Then when something goes wrong with their site, they either cry about it in support forums, or abandon the site like a broken toy. Did you notice that when you search for something in Google and Yahoo! and you have to weed through tons of crap before finding what you need? Everyone and their grandmother has a stupid Web site.
    I hope we reach thte point with Web Standards where all those millions of sites get desolved and cease to exist, rejected from every current browser. But now we want easy-to-build WordPress blogs so millions of idiots can create templates and blogs and get bored with them and leave them floating around in cyberspace to annoy the rest of us.
    Yeah….great idea.

    carburetor

    (@carburetor)

    18 years, 7 months ago

    Blurred by a closed mind I lashed out at some folks. Now I realize (after actually putting some thought into it) what you mean by a template editor.
    Still, I encourage users to learn as much as they can about what makes things tick. But I suppose a TEMPLATE editor in the WYSIWYG format would be a nice tool for those who want nothing to do with code.
    I’m just an old fart who believes in knowing how stuff works. Actually I’m only 39. But I wasn’t born in a microwave oven. There’s just too many newbies crying out, “I uploaded WordPress (or whatever they’re using) 20 minutes ago and it doesn’t work…someone hold my hand because I don’t want to read!”
    I’ll shut up now……

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