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Add Border to Image (35 posts)

  1. j2001rad
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    The feature to add a border to an image was simple. Type the number 2 in the box and I would get a 2 pixel border. This is gone in 3.9

    How can this be done without having to code it in?

    Please add it back.

  2. themovieman
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Agreed. That and the width and height boxes. Right now it's only available for those uploaded to the media gallery but is absent if you host an image outside of that (i.e. on Imgur).

  3. RecoverySI
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    wtf?!??

    who thought it was a good idea to zotz this control?

    who thought we'd find it "more convenient" to putz around looking up the html for adding a border and then adding it manually in the "text" view??

    kindly restore the padding controls in the image editor

    quickly

    please

  4. decisive
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Please bring back the features!

    In the old version you click on an image, click advanced settings and voila, you can edit image properties - border, vertical space, horizontal space.

    This new update takes us backwards with less control. Not happy.

  5. themovieman
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Not perfect, but works, there's a plug-in that allows you to adjust an image's margin and border.

    http://wordpress.org/plugins/advanced-image-styles/

    Hopefully a plug-in can be made to add the ability to change the width and height for images hosted outside of WP, but this one is a start and greatly appreciated.

  6. diggisaur
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Urgh.... I used the padding heavily. I have some posts with 15 pictures on them and they all use the padding.

    This isn't going to work for me. While the new features are great, they do not outweigh this loss of functionality.

    I hope this comes back, or I will be rolling back to 3.8.3.

    This is an absolute deal breaker for me.

  7. themovieman
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Urgh.... I used the padding heavily. I have some posts with 15 pictures on them and they all use the padding.

    Try this plug-in:
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/advanced-image-styles/

    Might work for you. Still need the option to change-out an image link (that's already on the page, currently have to delete the image and re-insert) for those who use templates (like myself), but this solves one problem of padding and borders at least.

  8. There will be a plugin that restores the options relatively soon.

  9. DLR1029
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Yet ANOTHER Plugin to REPLACE what WordPress Removed? Seriously? WordPress STOP FIXING THINGS THAT ARE NOT BROKEN.

    Whats worse is NO Choice when WordPress decides to do an Update and FRYS everyone's website.

    I have OTHER things to do in life then babysit my Website 24/7 in case WordPress gets a wild hair. 3 "Updates" in 2 Weeks? Really?

    Am Really tired of this and can Bet I'm not the only one.

    (I edited this post to Remove Massive Profanity that I feel towards WordPress taking all my time to Fix things THEY Broke FOR NO REASON)

  10. DLR1029, please don't shout.

    The 2 security updates were unfortunate. We would have waited on 3.8.3, but we had outright broken 3.8.2 and it was imperative for the many people who wait until a new major release is out for a couple weeks before upgrading.

    Also speaking of those updates, auto-updates are for minor releases and that was introduced in 2013 with WordPress 3.7, and has been applied quite a few times since then. Again, the auto updates are only for minor release number updates. So 3.8.1 will update to 3.8.2 but it will not update to 3.9. The major version number release upgrades have to be initiated manually in the WordPress dashboard as always.

    The auto updates can be tuned and that includes disabling update emails. In the majority of cases a minor point release should not break anything. It’s really encouraged that users leave the auto updates in place.

    If you really, truly, feel you need to disable them, you should read this codex document: https://codex.wordpress.org/Configuring_Automatic_Background_Updates

    We really encourage people to read this post about updates, before disabling, to understand the rational behind them. They really are well tested, and if you find that you have to 'fix' your site after every minor update, it's probably time for an extensive audit of your plugins and themes, as these changes are usually 1-4 files only, and maybe 30 lines of code at any time. We really do keep 'em as lean and mean as possible.

    As for the MAJOR update to 3.9? You or your host did that one, and things that were removed were features used by a minority of users. Changing things is a part of progress. TinyMCE 4 was needed in order to be able to adapt to how the web is growing and changing, and that did come at a trade off. The image editor was a struggle with UX/UI and space. But all these things were tested by volunteers before being released, and for the vast majority of users, work just fine.

  11. DLR1029
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    "things that were removed were features used by a minority of users."

    Thats why there are literally 1000s of complaints about it posted JUST today on web forums Everywhere. Those Poor "Minority of users"

    And I REALLY don't believe ANY "volunteers" tested this. If they had you would have heard them complain. We know of NO ONE that hasn't used the Borders/Vertical/Horizontal settings Regularly.

    And as a Design Firm Owner & Developer I find your incompetent attempt to blame Us "it's probably time for an extensive audit of your plugins and themes" almost insulting if I didn't know you are simply trying to cover your own inability to face the facts.

    If you wanted WordPress to be a Private Project done YOUR way then YOU should keep it Private. Otherwise you need to find a way to provide what people want. It's been made AMPLY Clear to you what features people use and Like. Though you do seem to continue Ignoring us.

    I SHOUT because Clearly you are Not LISTENING to people who actually use WORDPRESS.

    We set clients up to manage their Own websites which is what WordPress USED to be Perfect for but now you expect all those MAJORITY of people to get plugins to keep replacing features? Or now the MAJORITY of which are Average users are expected to learn HTML just to put a Border on their Photo?

    God save the MOM&POPs now that you're to good for them.

  12. ksteinhoff
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I run a blog that has 10,263 images in the library. Every one of those was posted with a border and padding.

    I may be a minority, but I want padding and borders back.

  13. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Thats why there are literally 1000s of complaints about it posted JUST today on web forums Everywhere. Those Poor "Minority of users

    By the way even if there were thousands of complaints on the forums, and by saying that you're taking those complaints as a good representation of issues people have with core, compare that with how many people use WordPress. You will see the minority clearly. However, I've yet to see one thousand complaints on the WordPress.org forums about this.

    Otherwise you need to find a way to provide what people want. It's been made AMPLY Clear to you what features people use and Like. Though you do seem to continue Ignoring us.

    The thing is WordPress can't incorporate every thing that people request, and it also has its idea that these options should be handled by plugins in the majority of cases. So the things it does incorporate are on a needs basis, how many people need it, the reason why and the urgency of it all.

    I SHOUT because Clearly you are Not LISTENING to people who actually use WORDPRESS.

    We encourage you not to shout because it really decreases the likelihood that anyone would help you.

  14. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    To clarify, this thread was opened so that j2001rad (the original poster) could receive help on how to add borders to images without having to code it. Thank you themovieman and Ipstenu.

    Moving this to the How To and Troubleshooting forum.

    If you still need help could you create a new thread there: http://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting#postform

    Or if you're not looking for support could you create a thread in the feedback forum? http://wordpress.org/support/forum/requests-and-feedback#postform - be constructive please

  15. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Also worth noting that we track unanswered threads here: http://wordpress.org/support/view/no-replies - So if someone's looking for support and you're responding make sure you're responding to help them out, because you will remove them from that "no-replies" list and once the thread runs off the first page of the forum it'll be difficult to find again.

  16. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    And I REALLY don't believe ANY "volunteers" tested this. If they had you would have heard them complain.

    I wouldn't doubt that it had been tested, but in future a way you could guarantee it has is by testing it yourself at the beta stage: http://make.wordpress.org/core/handbook/beta-testing/

  17. decisive
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    You don't see a groundswell of complaints regarding the changes to images because you keep closing topics. Great way to disregard the issue.

    Andrew wrote - "The thing is WordPress can't incorporate every thing that people request."

    That's a ridiculous thing to say, the features for editing images were already there and have been for years.

    Do you have any idea how disruptive it is for people who use WordPress daily to see features disappear on a whim?

    Additionally, don't you think adding plugins for everything invites a ton of problems.

    How can we trust all of these plugin authors with access to our site. Doesn't this make WordPress less secure??

  18. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    We actively encourage people to create their own threads to discuss their own issue, but the forum etiquette is not really up for change here. We know how to create a sustainable environment where people can search for help, ask it for help, and receive help. By this we need to keep the focus of topics about helping the original poster.
    There are of course other reasons threads are closed, but it has nothing to do with us trying to hide people complaining.

    That's a ridiculous thing to say, the features for editing images were already there and have been for years.

    It's not that ridiculous, it's actually reasonable to think that not everyone's request can be incorporated into core, along with the statement I made about WordPress' plugin philosophy.

    Do you have any idea how disruptive it is for people who use WordPress daily to see features disappear on a whim?

    Yep, I can empathise, I'm not actually saying Nay or Yay to any request here. I'm just explaining the situation. I have no input (although I could have) on core ideas, I am just a forum moderator and deep down a normal forum member. I am not saying people are wrong for requesting that this should still be in core.

  19. airng619
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I use padding and borders to all my images as well and would love to be able to do that again without a plug in. However, now you are cornering us into searching and using plugins that may or may not exist yet. I would just like to be able to add a padding and border to my images with the same amount of ease as I did before the upgrade. Thanks

  20. John
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I posted my very polite thoughts about this in another thread right here and also on another blog of a theme company about the same issue. Both were deleted.

    And this thread where LOTS of others were complaining about the same was closed and all pages after the first one were deleted:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/39-visual-editor?replies=31

    I don't think this is really the forum etiquette you are advocating here.

    Indeed, lots of people are already complaining about this but their voices are systematically muted; the remaining have just not yet discovered what they will be missing.

    And I find this debate about "majority" of wp users rather misplaced here, in current topic: does this same majority really need to build audio/video playlists, or use Press This, or even Email to Post features that are found in settings?

    It would have been much more productive to just explain why those settings have been removed, in a rational way.

  21. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    You really should create your own thread to discuss it rather than posting on someone else's thread, especially when that someone was asking for help. You are more than welcome to help out on threads, but if we find threads are being derailed or taken over by "me too" posts, despite recommendations for people to create their own threads, then moderators unfortunately have to take action themselves.

    As you can see this thread that j2001rad posted to receive help is now being taken over by other people's issues, some of which aren't looking for support, and this thread will likely be closed for the same reasons.

    Again, if you want to discuss your own issue (regardless of whether you think its the same as someone else's) please create your own thread: https://wordpress.org/support/forum/how-to-and-troubleshooting#postform

    We are sorry you feel like this is a huge hush-up operation, but the way we operate in WordPress.org forums is not specific to your issue, or anybody's issue. You'll see the same tactics being applied throughout these forums.

  22. John
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Of course, you are right, this is how things should work - usually.

    But I find that, in that particular case, the initial poster didn't really ask for help! He is, the same way all other subsequent posters do, just complaining. So, I don't well understand the purpose to create a new thread just to complain about the same...

    Do you really want us all to initiate new threads that just say "why did you remove the option to add borders and padding to images?"

    But OK, no problem, I understand both sides are upset with this topic and I'll wait this thing settles a bit and see what happens.

  23. airng619
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Done. New thread posted. Now can you please get to the issue?

  24. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Do you really want us all to initiate new threads that just say "why did you remove the option to add borders and padding to images?"

    Yes I really want you to do that because at the moment 17 posts (including all of mine) of this thread have been unhelpful to j2001rad.

  25. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Do it in the feedback forum if you're not looking for support.

  26. John
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    OK will do, no problem.
    But I would love to hear what j2001rad thinks about that.

  27. j2001rad
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I guess I'll chime back in since I started this. Glad I did, maybe it's an eye opener that there is more than a minority affected here. There are still countless others that have yet to upgrade and will soon be disappointed.

    After digging more, I found out that 3.9 broke one of my favorite plugins which is MCE Table Buttons. It made using tables and editing images very simple.

    Three of the many key editing options that disappeared are:
    - adding a border to an image (FIXED with Advanced Image Styles plugin)

    - aligning cell content to TOP or BOTTOM has gone away. Adding padding is not the solution (I cannot figure this one out at all)

    - adding background color to a cell has also gone away. I want to alternate cells and rows by color.

    I posted in the MCE Table Buttons forum. No response.

    It's pointless to me to have to code all this in now. That will add an excessive amount of time to some sites which was previously accomplished in a couple clicks.

    This is all being done to reduce the core of WordPress? What is actually gained by this. To me, and obviously many others, it is a major setback.

  28. ButterflyHerder
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

    Just upgraded WordPress...

    I'm VERY UNHAPPY about the changes discussed in this thread. I agree with everybody here.

    PLEASE FIX THIS so we can regain control over our images. I don't have time to go back and fix the images on 27+ websites on my server!

    Cynthia

  29. Andrew
    Forum moderator
    Posted 10 months ago #

    I posted in the MCE Table Buttons forum. No response.

    j2001rad, You only posted 15 hours ago, and that was only 11 hours when you said that. These forums just can't deal with time limits, if you need urgent support it's more realistic to hire someone because threads are known to go unanswered for not just hours but months. *Why should I have to pay for something that WordPress broke* This is just what happens when asking for help in a free forum, not specific to your issue.

  30. DLR1029
    Member
    Posted 10 months ago #

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