• Resolved Nico

    (@nico23)


    I setup Cimy Swift SMTP and its working fine. Postmattic however seems to cook its own thing instead of sending Email like WP is doing? Why? So you have a selling point to tell people the “Postmatic can send emails for you!”?

    I like it that you use native wordpress comments intead of 3rd party stuff, you should use native WP email sending as well IMO.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/postmatic/

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  • Plugin Author Postmatic

    (@vernal)

    Hey Nico,

    It is by design (and technical limitation) that Postmatic doesn’t use wp_mail but goes deeper down to phpmailer instead. You can read a bit about it in the back and forth here.

    Email is tricky. Sorry.

    Thread Starter Nico

    (@nico23)

    Could you please give me a straight answer if you are using it as a selling point or not?

    Could you also please tell me what wp_mail does not that phpmailer does exactly?

    I consider Premium anyway but I think there should be a option to use native wp_mail (and all that comes with for free for you, like SMTP plugins). I want to try out the plugin first. I do not want to set my VPS up for mail sending as SMTP is easy setup and works fine. I spend to much time on setting my own things up lately.

    You speak about “tricky”, I am a tweaker I do not mind tricky. But you not provided a “tricky” way how to do it.

    Also how does your Premium service send the mail? My mails go though a API to your servers and then send with SMTP from there or how?

    The guy who gave you a bad review wanted to use mailgun, there are lot of similar services for SMTP sending of mails that people may want to use with this plug-in. So I think you shooting yourself in the foot with this.

    Maybe there is a good technical reason so I am quite interested in your answer.

    Plugin Author Postmatic

    (@vernal)

    Hey Nico,

    Of course outbound mail delivery is a selling point of Postmatic Premium. We are a business and need to be sure we make enough money to continue developing and maintaining not just Postmatic but also our 3 other free plugins.

    With all due respect I’m not obligated to give you any further explanations of our business model or technical decisions. We looked at other post/comment subscription plugins and what kind of support tickets they deal with most. Many are plagued by tickets asking for help with wp_mail, cron, or smtp plugin errors. We made the decision to bypass all of that and also gained other opportunities by having deeper level access to mail sending… which opens doors for future features that are not possible with wp_mail. It’s been a fine decision for overwhelming majority of our users.

    And, the obvious is that Postmatic is GPL. We created it. It’s yours. Tweak it. You’re even welcome to use our servers for your incoming comments.

    Respectfully,
    Jason

    @nico – If the plugin doesn’t work the way you want it to, wouldn’t it just be easier to use a plugin that does? I’m just curious why so much apparent dissatisfaction on a feature that’s already been answered?

    Thread Starter Nico

    (@nico23)

    Do you have any suggestions? I don’t know any plugins that do what postmattic (pro) is doing.

    I want to get a feeling for it, I want to use it and look how the basic functions work, but I cant because the devs present their plugin as “native” but then first thing you get is you need a free API key. Then it indeed does use native comment system but only with a API key, that seem as forced and unnecessary as the fact that the mail sending is not native wordpress on purpose.

    I am thinking about writing a detailed review about this. Headline “Trying to Hard”

    No suggestions. I’m extremely happy with Postmatic. The devs have already explained why the use of an API key. You don’t need to use it. So, yeah…

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