• Resolved juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)


    Hi,

    We purchased GAMP almost three months ago but as we were using a version of PHP older than version 5.3 (we are on 5.2.17) then we encountered problems (as your code was not supported).

    Although we can’t give you administrator access to this system (as we are doing the work for someone else) we will carry out any actions you ask us to do on your behalf, and we will inform you of exactly what happens.

    From a WordPress administration perspective, we can do anything you ask us to do. We can even send you screenshots if you like. We are trying to do everything we can to solve these problems.

    You have closed the previous two threads I raised on this issue, presumably because we cannot give you administrator access.

    The last email reply we got from your service desk was on 11th Aug. We replied to this asking if would get a refund if you decided to not support PHP older than version 5.3. We got no reply.

    That was 15 days ago. We sent another email eight days ago asking for an update. Again we got no reply.

    So despite the error I got when activating GAMP, today I tried entering our licence key.

    I clicked the ‘licences’ link under the keychain (v1.0.1) entry on the plugins page. This took me to a page that says “You have not entered a valid License Key for OpenTickets – General Admission – Multiple Pricing. To enter this information and activate the product, as well as many of it’s features, please visit the Licenses settings page.”

    Below this message were fields for entering licence keys for the Enterprise Bundle and GAMP. I entered values for GAMP but this failed with the error message:

    Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM in …/wp-content/plugins/qsot-keychain/inc/checker-api.php on line 132

    I went back to the licence entry page which still said I had not entered a valid licence key.

    I would much prefer to have these issues solved than to have a refund. If we are forced to abandon OpenTickets then I will have wasted many hours and I will need to find and implement an alternative solution.

    Please do not mark this as resolved until it is resolved one way or another, many thanks.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/opentickets-community-edition/

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  • Plugin Author quadshot

    (@quadshot)

    @juliepayne76

    I checked our email records and if you can email info@opentickets.com from the email you purchased the plugin, we’ll look into this.

    It sounds like you hit an activation limit, and that is easily solved.

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    Hi,

    I will ask my partner to send our company email address (used to purchase GAMP).

    We have been communicating with ‘info@quadshot.com’ but they appear to have stopped responding. Do you know why?

    Also does info@opentickets.com go to a different company, or just a different person (I’m guessing this will be seen by you)?

    Please see the thread:
    Does GAMP work with WordPress installed in a sub-directory?

    And after this was marked as resolved, I started this thread:
    GAMP still does not work with PHP 5.2.17

    But this was also marked as resolved. And so unfortunately the history of the problem is spread out over these threads. The error messages do not look like hitting an activation limit to me.

    Plugin Author quadshot

    (@quadshot)

    Those emails go into the same box.

    Quadshot Software LLC (we’re in Henderson, NV, by Las Vegas) is the company that creates OpenTickets. Both those emails go to the same inbox, which several people access. Currently there are three open issues, with hundreds more resolved.

    The first issue was resolved, since you can work in sub-directory. That was a simple answer

    The second one was also resolved since WordPress requires 5.2.4, and your install is not up to WordPress minimum requirements. We cannot make our software retrofit below minimum WordPress requirements, which is very likely the cause of the issue.

    In the tickets mentioned above we also offered to refund the money if you can’t get it working, so I’m not sure the confusion there.

    The reason I ask for either order_id or the email that ordered the software is that there are activation limits. The error you are seeing makes me think you might have hit that.

    Update: just received another email from Mark, and responded. We asked for a URL to look at. Since you cannot provide a login, it is going to be difficult to help, but we will try.

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    The problem may not have been sub-directory related but the problem was, and still is, in no way resolved.

    17 is highter than 4. So by my calculations, version 5.2.17 is more recent than 5.2.4, meaning our PHP is up to minimum WordPress requirements.

    I never saw any offer of a refund. I would prefer to solve the issues but if you are offering a refund as a last resort than I appreciate that. I have invested many hours of my time testing your package, and reporting your bugs. If I have to start again from scratch because you prefer to refund me rather than solve this problem I will be far from happy.

    Plugin Author quadshot

    (@quadshot)

    Yes, WordPress recommends 5.4.

    Regardless of the PhP version, we now have a URL too look at.

    Plugin Author loushou

    (@loushou)

    Hey @juliepayne76,

    Thanks for opening another ticket, and putting your thoughts into written form. I have several general notes about this ticket, and I hope you have time to read it all.

    First, I want to reiterate that we support the minimum version of PHP required by WordPress core. I am not sure if it can put it another way, but we, like core WordPress, are not retrofitting code to fit an older version than that minimum requirement of 5.2.4 (caveat to this later, in the last couple paragraphs). Running an older version of PHP not only pretty much ensures you will have some features of WordPress not work, but you are also opening yourself up to several previously resolved security problems in core PHP.

    Moving on, I want to clear up something that I am noticing is an ongoing trend in your recent posts. You seem to be under the impression that our company is ignoring you, and just want to make a quick buck by selling you a plugin. This is not the case. I am not going to list our all your support requests to the helpdesk email or their resolutions, but I will say that our records show that we were the last responders on all helpdesk emails from you. BTW, we actually have a Helpdesk software, where you can login an create tickets, which have histories and tracking mechanisms, instead of long email thread. If you did not get an invitation to it, let me know, and I will have the team send you another invitation so you can start using that instead of standard email.

    Furthermore, reviewing the forums, I can see that you and I have had lengthy conversations, to which none require a response from me except the several you opened in the past few days. I do see that a couple of your many requests have gone several days without response, once even as long as a week, but most of them are addressed well before that threshold.

    On the same topic, we as a company are not unreasonable. I had planned on extending your license by 2 or 3 months (since we are just over the 2 month mark right now) once you had confirmed your problems were resolved. It seemed like the right thing to do, especially since we collectively have spent so much time getting you up and running. It just seems pointless to do it multiple times while we continue to get you running. I am sure you can agree that doing it incrementally would make it seem like we are holding your license for ransom rather than making good on some promises.

    Also, it is not beyond us to issue a refund if the situation requires it. To this point, our customers have been happy with the software and the service, thus the need to issue one has not arisen. But I have talked to the team, and it is an option when all other options have been exhausted. The last thing we want is someone rolling around who bought one of our plugins, was unable to get it to work, and starts bad mouthing a great piece of software because of their bad experience. We are reasonable.

    To the point about ‘admin access’. Admin access is NOT a requirement. It is certainly not why your tickets were closed. Your tickets were closed because the discreet problems you reported were resolved, like the GAMP 5.3 problem… that is resolved, evident by the fact that you get further in the process.

    Back to Admin Access: Admin Access is a tool. Your complaints seem to be recently centered around not getting enough help fast enough, as anomalous as that is. Having Admin Access makes the entire ‘help’ process much much faster. Case and point, if you had supplied a temporary admin account the day that you reported the GAMP issue, the day I came out with the patch for the same issue, I would have been able to login to your install, update the plugin, and immediately find out that there is another problem preventing you from completing the installation. At that point, instead of requiring you to make another post in the forums, or send another email, I would have been able to see the problem immediately, and issue another change that solves it, immediately, so long as it was within reason. What has spanned days would have been minutes, literally.

    I understand that you have reservations for giving Admin Access, even if temporary, and that is totally understandable, as even with my sites I hold the same stance. That is why it is not a requirement. Almost all of our troubleshooting steps can be achieved with a competent WordPress administrator at the wheel, albeit at a much much slower pace. There is only one step that I would normally perform that could not be done by such an administrator, because it involves code. Obviously something has caused you adopted the idea that we simply cannot help you without admin access. Let me assure you that is definitely not the case. As long as you have someone capable in the admin and who can follow concise direction, most steps can be taken. We could even do a screenshare, so that the person can be walked through the steps; however, such a screenshare would need to be scheduled.

    Now for this new problem. You are now experiencing a problem with the keychain plugin. This seems to be another PHP version issue. Almost all of the time, such an issue, as stated earlier, is not going to get a retrofit. In this particular case however, there is a valid alternative syntax for calling the function in question that we can use, that will work with your version of PHP, will work with PHP 5.2.4, and will still work even in the upcoming PHP 7 release. Because of this, I will make a patch for it, TODAY, and get it up on the OpenTickets.com website. After that, you will be able to download the new version and get it installed, so that you can add your license.

    In addition, I will keep this ticket open, per your request, even though this specific issue will be resolved, until you give me the go-ahead that your entire problem has been resolved. I don’t want you thinking that I closed this one for some arbitrary reason. Besides, in this case, we can simply keep it open as a makeshift Helpdesk ticket until you guys get an account on our real Helpdesk.

    I will ping you when I have an update to the keychain plugin,
    Loushou

    Plugin Author loushou

    (@loushou)

    You are correct, 5.2.17 is newer than 5.2.4. In an earlier email, I have it reported that you were on 5.1.17, which is why I keep writing it here. If you are on 5.2.17, not 5.1.17, then yes you are on a compatible version. Regardless, I will make the adjustments to the keychain.

    Loushou

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    Please can we clear this PHP version issue up?

    from my sources (http://php.net/releases/),
    Version 5.2.4 was released: 30 August 2007

    And by my sources,
    Version 5.2.17 was released: 06 January 2011

    And so it is not pre version 5.2.4, why do you both keep insisting that it is?

    About one sixth of all servers in the world running PHP are still on pre 5.3 versions.

    I do not appreciate the insinuation that I might bad mouth your software.

    The error in the thread:
    GAMP still does not work with PHP 5.2.17
    was never resolved.

    I tried registering GAMP for the first time a few hours ago. I suspect the problem might be a knock-on because this earlier problem was never fixed. It was marked as resolved. So it might not be a keychain problem.

    Thank you for agreeing to keep this open. If you can’t fix the code then we will reluctantly take a refund, whereupon a resolution will have been reached.

    Plugin Author loushou

    (@loushou)

    The original report of your php version to our service desk was version 5.1.17, which sprouted this whole debate. Clearing up that you are on 5.2.x resolves it. Sorry for the confusion.

    On the contrary, I was saying that you were not going to bad mouth the software, because you seem reasonable enough to continue working out the problem instead of frivolously throwing in the towel like a lesser patient person might.

    The problem is a new issue, in the Keychain plugin.

    If you still cannot get it working, reach out please.

    You can download the new version on your my-acocunt page.

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    NOT TRUE!

    This is the original report to your helpdesk…

    “We have investigated the error message and it seems like you might be using an anonymous function as a parameter to an action hook (specifically in the ‘add_action’ function on line 58 of ‘qsot-ga-multi-price.php’).

    This is fine for anyone using PHP 5.3 or later, but the sports club we are doing this website for are on a shared server running PHP 5.2.17.”

    The exact wording I object to is this “The last thing we want is someone rolling around who bought one of our plugins, was unable to get it to work, and starts bad mouthing a great piece of software because of their bad experience”. I read this as an insinuation that I might take this course of action.

    However, I am a reasonable person (as you point out) and so I will accept that I may have misinterpreted this comment.

    Many thanks for a speedy response.

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    You said “The original report of your php version to our service desk was version 5.1.17, which sprouted this whole debate. Clearing up that you are on 5.2.x resolves it. Sorry for the confusion.”

    This back-handed apology implies we created the confusion in the first place by reporting the wrong version number. THIS IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE.

    I have just checked all our correspondence with you on this matter; emails as well as posts in this forum. We supplied the correct PHP version number in ALL CASES.

    (My capitals are for emphasis, not shouting)

    The wording of the original report to your service desk is quoted in my previous post (above). It states the correct PHP version number.

    I have installed the new version of the Keychain plugin and I have entered the licence details without encountering an error. I will test GAMP over the next few days and I will update this thread to let you know if it works.

    Plugin Author loushou

    (@loushou)

    I will be here when you confirm it is working.

    Loushou

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    Regarding email, I have just found one of your emails in our spam.

    It went to our spam because despite all our previous correspondence being via ‘info@quadshot.com’, your reply was sent from ‘info@opentickets.com’. We only added this second address to our Whitelist a few hours ago (because we were asked to use it earlier in this thread).

    In the email, dated 18th Aug, you did indeed offer a refund. If you had sent this from the email address used for all previous correspondence then we would have seen it.

    In that email you again seem to think our PHP version is lower than 5.2.4. I have no idea what has given you this impression but I know that it has not come from us.

    Are there any other email addresses that you might use that we need to know about?

    Plugin Author quadshot

    (@quadshot)

    There are only the two addresses: info@opentickets.com and info@quadshot.com. (As indicated above in this thread)

    At this point, it is irrelevant about PhP. We’ve provided a solution.

    Please let us know asap if your plugin is now working.

    Thread Starter juliepayne76

    (@juliepayne76)

    You may regard it as irrelevant, but with a back-handed apology you accused us of starting this whole problem in the first place.

    Please check your facts. Did we EVER give you the wrong information?

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