• Trial allover wordpress – violate the wordpress rulles!
    You don’t have anything for free. It isn’t honest…

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  • Moderator Jan Dembowski

    (@jdembowski)

    Forum Moderator and Brute Squad

    Trial allover wordpress – violate the wordpress rulles!
    You don’t have anything for free. It isn’t honest…

    I’m afraid it doesn’t violate the WordPress plugin guidelines.

    https://wordpress.org/plugins/about/guidelines/

    Yes, there is a section against trialware in code. That means a plugin author cannot make the plugin only work for a time inside the actual code itself.

    This plugin is an interface to a service and that’s called software as a service. The plugin code is not trialware but the service is and that’s alright. There is no restriction on the service that the plugin gives you access to.

    You don’t have to like this plugin and your 1 star review will stand. I’m just addressing the rules violation part.

    Plugin Author Vova Feldman

    (@svovaf)

    @stagesystems moreover we do have a free plan, we just want to give you a taste of our cool paid features for the first week. Afterwards, the plan automatically changed to the free one and you can use it forever.

    Plugin Author RatingWidget

    (@ratingwidget)

    @stagesystems due to the common confusion we’ll be changing that, and removing the automated trial. Once we change that, users will have to manually sign-up for the trial in order to test the paid plans. We believe it’s NOT the best user experience since most users DO want to try the paid features anyways… but on the other hand, we don’t want to create unnecessary antagonism among our awesome WordPress users. Hope it helps πŸ™‚

    Thread Starter StageSystems

    (@stagesystems)

    @ratingwidget

    We believe it’s NOT the best user experience

    It’s your problem as you will present it to the user. You shouldn’t hide reality from the user!

    The user will receive “better user experience”, if you tell and write the truth about your payments.

    Thread Starter StageSystems

    (@stagesystems)

    @vovafeldman

    hohoho…

    moreover we do have a free plan

    REALLY???
    Is it not a “plan”, where you write FREE?
    Description of this “plugin” described other things:

    FREE:

    Unlimited ratings
    1M pageviews / month
    RatingWidget branded

    STARTER – FREE FROM BRANDING:

    Remove (i) icon from Ratings
    Secure Connection (Fraud protection)
    Power User Settings
    BuddyPress Ratings
    50k PageViews / month
    1,000 ratings
    Unlimited votes
    Email Support & Help Center

    PROFESSIONAL – SEO, DASHBOARD & ADVANCED ANALYTICS:

    All Starter Features
    Google Rich Snippets (schema.org)
    Management Dashboard
    Analytics
    Especially for Voting Contests – Visitor by IP identification
    Unlimited Multi-Criterion (Multi-Criteria Rating)
    SSL / HTTPS Support
    API Access
    Custom Ratings Image
    WMPL Language Auto-Selection
    bbPress Forum Ratings
    250k PageViews / month
    3,000 ratings
    Unlimited votes
    Priority Email Support & Help Center

    BUSINESS – MODERATION & TOP LEVEL SUPPORT:

    All Professional Features
    Full Moderation
    Real-Time Analytics
    Personal Success Manager
    Fraud Alerts
    Data Export
    Mobile Optimized
    1M PageViews / month
    10,000 ratings
    Unlimited votes
    Phone, Email & Chat Support

    Plugin Author RatingWidget

    (@ratingwidget)

    Can you kindly explain what confuses you on our description? Why do you feel that we hide something?

    As you mentioned, we do share our plans description and show what included in the FREE plan:

    FREE:
    Unlimited ratings
    1M pageviews / month
    RatingWidget branded

    We are trying to be upfront and clear as possible, but there’s always a place for improvement. If you could help us out with specific things that you think we should add / remove in the description – it would be awesome!

    Thread Starter StageSystems

    (@stagesystems)

    @jan Dembowski

    It isn’t told anywhere that it is a paid SERVICE!

    How much times you can find the word “service” in their readme.txt file?

    It isn’t written anywhere!

    moreover, everywhere is written a “free plugin” with “free plan”!

    Nowhere said, that’s TRIAL!

    Thread Starter StageSystems

    (@stagesystems)

    FREE TRIAL and not FREE – is much better.
    But not only at this one place. It must be changed allover your readme.txt

    Plugin Author RatingWidget

    (@ratingwidget)

    1. It is FREE plugin & FREE service. You can use the free version forever.
    2. You cannot start using the plugin without accepting the terms of use which explicitly says that it’s a service.
    3. With regards to the trial, we don’t see it that way. We look at that as giving you a free 7-day of our Business plan. And once you start using the plugin, you immediately get a welcome email that explains ALL about it.

    Maybe we should add some extra info about the trial on the description to make it even clearer. Unfortunately, based on my experience users don’t read more than the title + short description of the plugin anyway.

    Thread Starter StageSystems

    (@stagesystems)

    Why did you write

    FREE plugin
    if you are the SERVICE?

    Why did you write

    FREE service
    if you are TRIAL?

    Why did you write

    FREE plugin AND FREE service
    at the same time?

    It’s not the same! And this violate the wordpress rules!

    Plugin Author RatingWidget

    (@ratingwidget)

    It is a plugin that wraps a service inside. Which means it’s a plugin and a service. If it was violating the guidelines that the plugin was removed. We’re sorry to hear that you’re upset, but nothing constructive would come from this extreme criticism.

    Have a great day.

    Thread Starter StageSystems

    (@stagesystems)

    Hello Mika,
    Hello Samuel,

    please, remove this plugin from wordpress svn due wordpress rules violating,
    or please, explain in what this TRIAL SERVICE doesn’t violate the wordpress rules.

    Thank you

    Moderator Jan Dembowski

    (@jdembowski)

    Forum Moderator and Brute Squad

    *Catches up*

    Note: I’m not on the plugins team, I’m just a forum moderator. The plugins team works hard and get a lot of complaints.

    That all said, this plugin doesn’t violate the plugin guidelines and that’s been explained to you already.

    https://wordpress.org/support/topic/trialware-paid-plugin-with-trial?replies=13#post-7266823

    Yes, the plugin verbiage might need some updating to clarify things. But that doesn’t change the fact that this plugin is allowed.

    I’m closing this review as this back and forth isn’t productive. This plugin is software as a service. The code is not limited but the service is and that remains alright.

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