Revolutionary core changes 1/3 - curated store

  1. csfalcao


    I was dreaming about WP future, that's what I saw:

    1- A new plugins model (better than WP 4.0) when you search plugins by name, role, functionality and services (free/paid) - and services can be a CURATED STORE inside each WP that never happened before.

    Posted: 3 years ago #
  2. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Lead Plugin Wrangler

    Nope. No paid services like that will ever be in core. You're talking about full plugin territory here.

    Posted: 3 years ago #
  3. csfalcao


    Hi Mika.

    Let me go deeper in the problem, and how the idea can help.

    It can be different, not handling the payment, support, etc so you simply list the services to comparison. Listing won't hurt, as a backlink to the original site (current UI fails in easy of use, IMHO).

    A UI like the App Store or Google Play Store is what I thought, the new 4.0 WP is better but I think needs some "app store-like" UI for plugins.

    Just a good example is backup solution, I have 2 years using WordPress and among dozens of solutions only BackupBuddy and VaultPress worked with me, and I think how ease would be to search "backup" in plugins and have VaultPress there along others free plugins. It's handy for the user!

    An AppStore-like plugins in WP will help:
    - Saving user time by having a ONE WAY STOP to find for a real solution. Google is generalist, I want to trust in something inside WP.org or my WP dashboard.
    -Users will compare free/free and free/paid services.
    -User will choose easily the solution/service that fits its needs. It will not restrain but the opposite, it will give freedom to choose.
    - An App Store-like UI will help new users manage WP, as it is a well accepted UI for users.
    - A free/paid versions will help choose a service that will scalate as I grow. How Should I keep my blog/site years to come? Should I just exchange service/plugins every year for the same service, it looks unprofessional and messy.

    When I say CURATED STORE is a little broad, but while I understand Automattic maybe don't want to implement a store right now, Apple didn't wanted it too in the iPhone initial release, and history shows that exact App Store revolutionize all others online stores - and it is very successful, profitable and a great experience to the user.

    I also agree that a store in the Apple App Store similarity will need a LOT of employes, what could be not liked to the fit team of Automattic.

    What you think?

    Posted: 3 years ago #
  4. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Lead Plugin Wrangler

    No, there won't be a store. Period. It's always been clear that the WPORG repo is for free to download plugins.

    Also plugins are curated today. I should know, I'm one of the curators.

    Oh and Automattic doesn't own WordPress. They just donate the most peoples :) I don't work for them.

    Posted: 3 years ago #
  5. csfalcao


    Thanks for the explanation and sorry about the Automattic's role confusion.
    Also thanks for being a plugin curator - and a forum admin :)

    About the store idea I think it can change to a better WP.org repo than? New UI and better integration?

    The problems I mentioned won't be solved in the 4.0 redesign, im opinion.

    Can any aspect of this idea be useful? I think I have a point.

    Posted: 3 years ago #
  6. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Lead Plugin Wrangler

    Sure, but there are two things at play

    1) In WP 4.0 the CORE interface with the plugin repo is being addressed. And that's what the ideas forum is for, ideas for core :)

    2) The underlying codebase for the plugin repo needs work. It needs an overhaul. It's a MASSIVE undertaking, and short of burning it all and starting over, the ideas are great, but we already know. Which sucks to hear, but it's where we are. The plugin repo has to work with the user ids for the forum, the make plugins, svn, and a couple other places. It also has to connect with the forums for posting and reviews.

    https://meta.trac.wordpress.org/ has a whole section on things we're aware of to make it all better. But the pretty factor of the 'app store' concept is always going to be second fiddle (if not third) to getting the backend code working better, with a better search and proper integration. Just maintaining the plugins is a pill right now.

    I'm not saying the idea is bad, just that the store concept isn't going to happen.

    Recommended plugins from the plugin install page? That's something we're looking at already in 4.0 or 4.1

    Posted: 3 years ago #

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