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Multiple languages blogging. A core solution?

  1. webvitaly
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    Multi-language system will not be included in core in nearest future - it is obvious. But core-developers could create stand-alone high-quality plugin for doing this. They will not do this in nearest future because of others priority tasks.
    But I cannot beleive that WordPress have so huge open source community and developers could not create great open source plugin for creating multi-language sites on WordPress.
    There are so many sites on WordPress outside the one-language countries.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  2. sylwiaofwarsaw
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    That's an excellent idea and what we all really need in non-English speaking countries. If WordPress wants to expand there must be a solid, reliable solution for multilingual sites.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  3. Angry Creative
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    Ipstenu: I think everyone who voted for this would be happy to see it on the roadmap in trac. Even if its faaaaaaaaaaaaaar away from done it would be awesome to see that its a planned feature.

    Saying that it is a planned feature would create the incentive for companies in the community to actually push some code to core. That gives those companies a kind of deadline to adapt their business model to what is to come.

    I mean; the menu function from woothemes. Would that code have been commited if it werent for core dev already peeping at doing a function like that? Probably not.

    They realised (in my mind anyway) that hey, core dev is already working this problem. Should we do our own thing that might be obsolete when core has its own solution and cause us a world of trouble OR should we give code to the project, and then have it maintained by the community instead? Easy choice!

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  4. Newrone
    Member

    It's a bit short-sighted for "English-speaking" countries to assume that they won't need a multilingual solution, though that might be true if it's a plumber's or baker's website.

    I had several well-organised and structured multilingual websites running fluidly before "modernising" to the WP formula, and have run up against umpteen brick walls since.
    For now though, having tried several, I'm getting the most satisfaction from qTranslate. Donation-based and neat organisation. So far so good.

    WPML (for example) works on a different model though, so a serious question for core dev would be what is the ideal model for WP? That might be a larger stumbling block than the should we/shouldn't we decision. I'm also not persuaded that such a restrictively huge amount of extra code is necessary.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  5. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Administrator

    Newrone - Don't assume that the (mostly American) core devs assume they won't need multi-language ;) (This came up a lot at WCMTL).

    Webvitality - Speaking directly to this:

    But core-developers could create stand-alone high-quality plugin for doing this.

    Core devs are busy with, y'know, core ;) That's why I say the community, who has hundreds of non-core devs who are just as good as the core devs, should step up.

    (The core folks know it's needed, they have it on the list, but that list is insanely long, and needs your help! If you can make it better, using a plugin, then core can get it faster. Hint. Hint.)

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  6. paddelboot
    Member

    Angry Creative -

    You seem to have problems with a free plugin - why? The core functionality of it will be available for everyone, so what is the problem? It will do exactly what most people in this thread seem to be looking for.

    Also, a lot of effort has been put into this so far, even though it's still alpha, and user suggestions via github have been implemented into the code already - so why do you call it "half-ass"?

    And one good thing about a plugin is always that it doesn't create overhead - you don't need it, don't install it.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  7. sjaved
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    I am also facing this problem. I have a theme for which wpml and qTranslate are not compatible. When i searched and found nothing regarding this problem except every one asking for help in all the forums and no reply or just reffering to the list of plugins.

    I hope wordpress team will fix this soon.

    Thanks.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  8. bquade
    Member

    I might be interested in developing a plugin that might handle blog posts in multiple languages. As far as translating content, that would be up to the writer of the blog. But I think it should be possible to edit two or more pieces of content that represent the same blog post, like a post in English, Russian and French, and publish them in such a way that one of them would appear with a language selector somewhere on the page that would display the content for that language without using different blogs.

    There seems to be a lot of interest in this. I have been a professional developer for 20 years, and am starting a WordPress plugin business and looking for some plugin ideas to create for free that I can use to establish a portfolio. Such a plugin sounds like a great idea to me as I have long been interested in i18n and l10n.

    I would not be able to develop this immediately, but would love it if some of you who need such a plugin might work with me to give me ideas on how you envision such a plugin working. My idea is that you could enter one piece of content for each language, but when it appears on your blog it would only display the content for the chosen language. A cookie could be used so that each reader's language would be displayed by default.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  9. Great idea! A multilingual-ready core is really needed... Maybe someone could check two CMS that already are multilingual out-of-the-box, like Tribiq or Ionize CMS.

    Posted: 2 years ago #
  10. raymer
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    +1 for adding multi-language site capabilities to WP.

    To answer some of the objectsion above - it does not need to be bloated. I have found a new plugin called Bogo by a Japanese developer that elegantly provides much of what is missing and could be included in the core. http://ideasilo.wordpress.com/bogo/

    Total code is about 50kb. That's hardly going add bloat if the functionality were incorporated. In fact this plugin uses WP native functions (read the site and readme above for more).

    Posted: 2 years ago #

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    Good idea! We're working on it