Lets Make Expert and None Geek version of whole WordPress Experience

  1. M Asif Rahman


    We dev dont need that. For normal lets make separate version of whole WordPress control. Like for developer they need full control, while normal blogger will be happy to just post and set themes, showing all option will surely decrease our accessibility.

    Reading this will get you more details

    I asked to built it in core, instead of plugin, so those noob user dont have to install anything. Just a simple option during install

    Select your Accessibility ->
    1) Expert / Geeks or Want to be Geeks
    2) Noob Blogger/ Dont bother much about setting just give me a blog

    We will see a lot more user not scaring about WordPreess software from WordPress.com instead of other platform like Tumblr.

    Posted: 6 years ago #
  2. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Lead Plugin Wrangler

    That post talking about WordPress.com, which is a different beast than .org. This site is for suggestions for WP.org.

    There won't be separate versions of WP for new folks and developers, that's just outside the reality of what .org will be supporting.

    Posted: 6 years ago #
  3. M Asif Rahman


    Hi "Ipstenu". Read again. "install" and "WordPress software". I was talking about WordPress.org software.

    Posted: 6 years ago #
  4. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Lead Plugin Wrangler

    I did understand that, which is why I left the post open. You may want to re-read the article, which is SPECIFICALLY speaking of the diff between WP.com and tumblr.com

    A self hosted install is a different beast entirely so it's not a fair comparison.

    And people who want something even simpler than WP.com probably will be happier on Tumblr than paying for self hosting. They'll also be severly limited in growth, supportability, growth and uptime.

    I think for what that author needed, tumblr will feel like a good choice until he wants to grow.

    Posted: 6 years ago #
  5. M Asif Rahman


    True. But he wrote this, that caught my attention

    WordPress doesn’t make me feel like blogging often. I tend to postpone blogging. If I feel like sharing something, it doesn’t provide me that frictionlessness (wow, that’s a big word). This is because of the options you have to post content. Yeah, they do have different post types, but still, they’re not upto the mark.

    WordPress’s iPhone app is not that great. I have had it installed on my phone for more than an year and I haven’t used it even once. That is definitely a deal breaker.

    Here he was talking about installing on his own server.

    I know and understand the ideology of WordPress.com, WordPress.org and entire Tumblr. Discussion is not about comparison. It just make sense the way WordPress grown. Like we have implemented Menu in 3.0. All theme developer or any coder could do that without core function, but still we made that part of core. So, we could easily make an option for user to select level of complexity user wants.

    And this is just an idea to increase WordPress accessibility. I personally don't need this, probably none of us in this section needs it. But think about our noob friends or parents, what if they want more then WordPress.com but less complexity. They could buy cheap hosting or even got that from friends or close one, but a simple version will less scare them and they will find blogging more interesting.

    Posted: 6 years ago #
  6. Ipstenu (Mika Epstein)
    Lead Plugin Wrangler

    If he's never used the iPhone app, he may not have seen the improvements that jumped up. PLUS WordPress 3.3 has jumped ahead with iPhone and iPad responsiveness in the backend, and there's more on the way with 3.4. Have you tried Tumblrs iPhone app by the way? ;) Don't. It crashes.

    This is because of the options you have to post content. Yeah, they do have different post types, but still, they’re not upto the mark.

    Actually he should try post FORMATS, which are available in the TwentyEleven theme. They do exactly what Tumblr does.

    So, we could easily make an option for user to select level of complexity user wants.

    If it was easily done, we'd have done it. This is an unsubstantiated comment, and saying 'it's easy to do...' something is usually not.

    WordPress is accessible. For people who want to blog. if you want to just share content (that's not blogging BTW), then yes, WordPress is overkill.

    There's no 'easy' way to provide a pared down version of WP while keeping the level of functionality where it is. WordPress cannot possible be all things for all people, so right now, it's geared towards people who want to blog. Not Tumbl or tweet. And even then, you can totally do that with a P2 theme! You just have to think a little more :)

    My noob parents and I sat down, I showed them what they could do with WP, and they both have a site all their own. So does my grandmother now. And they can use it.

    You just have to show 'em how.

    Posted: 6 years ago #

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