Integrate Role-Manger plugin with WP Core
With WP 2.1, the role-manager plugin was broken. A 3rd party posted a fix, but bugs remain.
If you're using WP as a content management system rather than just a blog, nothing could be more important that managing user roles. It terrifies me that this plugin might one day (now?) stop being supported by its author. If new updates to wordpress break this plugin's functionality, clients could find themselves in a dead end with wordpress, unable to upgrade and retain CMS functionality.
I completely support keeping most things as plugins. But in this case, role management ought to be included in the core!
I wouldn't want to see the Role-Manager plug-in in particular integrated into WP, but I would like to see better role management built in, such as the ability to define user roles and restrict access to content based on that role:
but I would like to see better role management built in
Then why'd you vote it down? I'm not saying that the Role-Manager plugin, exactly as it's written, needs to be integrated into the core. I'm just saying that security access, on both the front end and especially the back end, needs to be tied to the categories so that WP can be used as a CMS. Even blogs would regularly want this functionality.
While the vast majority of capabilities are indeed best delivered in plugins, this kind of thing needs to be in the core.
"With WP 2.1, the role-manager plugin was broken. A 3rd party posted a fix, but bugs remain."
jayp, are you refering to this Role Manager plugin (for 2.1)? I have it installed but haven't come across any bugs in it yet.
Sorry if I misinterpreted your idea Jay, but it is headed "Integrate Role-Manger plugin with WP Core."
Yes johnbillion, that's the one I'm using. I left a comment over there about the bug I've found. Read it and the following three comments. The author confirms it's a bug. While I'm extremely appreciative of this new guys work, you have to understand my fear. I don't know 1) how technically capable he is of continuing development on this plugin and 2) how committed is he? What if on WP 2.2, he decides he just doesn't have the time to keep developing this plugin? With the original authors seemingly having abandoned development, it scares me. These capabilities are absolutely critical for the (modest) CMS sites my customers use that I've built using WP. (Why WP? Because it's interface and organization are much clearer to the end user how to use than something like Drupal).
@ Christiaan -- No hard feelings! Your point is well taken about how I titled the thread.
I think the Role Manager plugin as is, built into the core, would go a long way towards the capabilities so many need. But I'm not saying that it couldn't be improved. What do you have against it? What does it do or not do that you want improved?
For a start Jay, I'd like it to be able to achieve this:
I need subscriber roles such as public (unreg), registered subscribers, partner organizations (like the "extranet" concept), members (of the organization), staff, board.
Some other people might want public, friends, family...
Without Role Manager, this is a hopeless goal to achieve.
(we are using the Category Visibility and its kin, obviously).
Don't forget to vote on this one too: http://wordpress.org/extend/ideas/topic.php?id=108
Without such features, the roles are a little unnecessary...
ps. now I would like to combine this post with my previous, as I noticed that maybe I have voted twice. There is however not any way of deleting ones post...
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