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  1. laur
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi - Was wondering what advantages Yahoo offered over the free wordpress.com service?

    Also, is it possible to customise templates when hosting with yahoo, or are you limited to the pre-made themes?

    Thanks

    Laur

  2. moshu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    The other way around: when being hosted at wp.com (for which we do not offer support, just to clarify from the beginning :) you cannot modify templates and cannot choose other themes than those offered by them.
    When hosted on Y I guess it's like with any "normal" host: you can have unlimited number of themes.

  3. gdvw
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I'm a bit surprised you didn't ask what the disadvantages of using Yahoo for hosting are...

    I've had first hand experience with them, so if you're curious what they are like as a host, let us know and I'll give you some examples.

  4. moshu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    ;)
    I didn't want to go there - but, please, share your experience.

  5. gdvw
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Ok, so I used to use Yahoo for my hosting, and I stayed with them for about a year or so. There are some very important limitations you should consider:

    - You cannot use .htaccess with Yahoo hosting
    - that means you're stuck with the default permalinks
    - anything else you might want to use .htaccess for is out

    - Yahoo hosting is terribly expensive for what you get in return
    - i was paying 17.95/month for 10gb of space, and that is after a discount (i also used to be a SBC dial-up user back in the day, and i held onto that account for various reasons, so I received discounts on Yahoo hosting)

    - If you call/email them for support with hosting, the only advice they will offer is that you restore a backup
    - and if that doesn't solve your issue, they will only suggest that you start from scratch
    - the support center they use for hosting is not outfitted with experts, only with bodies; they won't be able to offer meaningful advice or assistance

    - When you decide to leave them, they will give you conflicted information on how to proceed (Yahoo isn't a registrar, they are a reseller for MelbourneIT)
    - when i decided to cancel my hosting, they informed me that i had to cancel my account first, then do the transfer of my domain to the registrar of my choice. this conflicts with their online 'help' content, which warns that if you cancel the account before transferring, that all will be lost.

    - Yahoo uses Windows servers
    - limitations aplenty with win servers, just search around for examples

    - Yahoo will not, under any circumstances, install software on their server at the request of a customer
    - almost all hosting providers are willing to work with you on this; btw i'm not talking about WP or other user level apps, i'm talking about server level apps (eg. if you need a custom version of PHP compiled with options you require, Yahoo will never do this for you, whereas a 'good' host will work with you on this)

    All of the above was enough to make me switch. I joined Yahoo hosting because at the time, I hadn't done enough research, and the price seemed good. Since then, I've researched it a lot more, and found Yahoo to be extremely lacking and expensive.

    This is all just my opinion of course, based on my experiences with Yahoo. You may find that they work fine for your needs.

    :) Good luck!!

  6. moshu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

  7. citeewurkor
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I used them before, as well, and was surprised at this "partnership".

  8. cyrijones
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I just signed up for a Yahoo hosting account with Word Press mainly to test it out... trying to figure out if I should migrate a bunch of course blogs I have on Blogger (hosted by third party) to WordPress.

    I like WordPress better but like app. service provider approach of Blogger better because my tech skills are very basic... having WordPress hosted with easy interface and what I thought would be reliability from Yahoo seemed like best of both worlds.

    The main reason I stuck with Blogger was that it had a big company, Google behind it so thought (maybe naively) that their uptime would be good...

    Thanks for your feedback re: Yahoo hosting... I have been trying to hear about people's experience with using WordPress on Yahoo and having hard time finding much.

    I think you can modify permlinks with the Yahoo hosting. Here's what they let you do...

    "By default WordPress uses web URIs which have question marks and lots of numbers in them, however WordPress offers you the ability to create a custom URI structure for your permalinks and archives. This can improve the aesthetics, usability, and forward-compatibility of your links. A number of tags are available, and here are some examples to get you started.

    Common options:
    Default
    Date and name based
    Numeric
    Custom, specify below

    I'm also finding it doesn't take long to create multiple blogs and although I realize now from Moshu that they are really just single installations, it still is nice how you can access from one interface (blogs are listed conveniently below each other like how Blogger service lists multiple blogs). I just have to log into my account and then I can quickly access my different blogs.

    Take care,
    Cyri

  9. laur
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I will avoid Yahoo like the plague! (though Yahoo Sales are doing noble job in fending off would be subscribers themselves - I couldn't find anyone to talk to who actually knew that they offered WordPress.)

    Will give Bluehost a shot...

    Thanks for the feedback.

  10. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 8 years ago #

    This does not bode well for this forum..........

  11. citeewurkor
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    laur, I've used bluehost for about 6 months. No complaints here. They're quite competent and have always been helpful to my requests for support.

  12. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Yah, podz - could get hairy and scary real fast....

  13. BillyG
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    3x a charm! I know, my fault for not backing up but it isn't like I haven't tried. Actually, I have been backing up, with the wp-db-backup plugin but I inquired, and no, it does not restore. The author did recommend some other plugin but I can't remember what it was and he hasn't answered back when I inquired again anyway!

    Anyway, using that very plugin last night to backup before hitting the hay, I forgot to select the option to email me the file (like I had been doing) vs downloading it so when it was done, I canceled and then the problem started. It hung up for a whole minute or so, a very nervous long minute. When it came back, I selected the email option and kicked it off again, it appeared to finish fine and I crashed. I opened WP in the morning and was not able to access the db and after messing with it for about 3 hrs, finally called Y! They of course, don't support WP (which I knew already) but you wouldn't know that if you read their banner (see the hosting page on this very site!); and no, it is not even WP2.0 official, it is the RC2 or 3 version as of today 1/10/05. They do have something called Snapshot but I had to dig hi and low for that and never did get it working.

    Also, I couldn't get the logon info for phpMyAdmin (which you have to manually install also) and I never heard back from the Sourceforge guys that run the phpMyAdmin site (O/S).

    All in all, VERY FRUSTRATED WITH YAHOO even though they have been my email client for 3+ years. At least that was free and has been worth every penny of it lol.

    My advice stay away from Y!, and DreamHost has no support either, which is why I switched to Y! but I just can't take it anymore.

    Alright Moshu, I'm gonna give Below$10Hosting a shot based on your comments above; I sure hope they are not like the other two crappy companies you guys have advertising right on this WordPress site (giving all newcomers a false sense of security). BAD BAD BAD! Yes I've been up for 13 hrs, just got home from school, it's only 2pm, I'm tired and I'm gonna give another host a shot, wish me luck. Hopefully I've helped somebody (who made it thru all my ranting and raving) lol, sorry. I think I'll start at the $4.99 /month plan :-)

  14. moshu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Just for the record:
    I never advised anybody about Below$10Hosting...
    (I didn't even know about their existence till now :)

  15. BillyG
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Yeah, I don't think that is gonna work, playing email-tag with them already. Who has the best rep from what you hear Moshu?

  16. BillyG
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    BUMP TO YOU MOSHU!

  17. moshu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    1. Please, don't bump - it doesn't help and will annoy the helpers around here.
    2. I don't have first hand experience with more than 2 hosts, so I am not going to endorse any company based on "hearsay" :)
    3. Yes, sometimes I warn users about certain hosts, if I've encountered repeated problems raised by users here.
    4. I am happy with my host: all the WP features work as they are supposed to, never had problems with permalinks, trackbacks, pings, feeds and other issues that seem to be a perpetual problem around here at every upgrade. Too bad they don't have an affiliate program to get paid if I recommend them, LOL...

  18. BillyG
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    "Please, don't bump - it doesn't help and will annoy the helpers around here."

    Did you notice the 20 hour time difference before you even thought about posting "annoying helpers"? Believe me, I am not LOL like you choose to close your above statement with.

    All we want to know is a reputable host that someone with some authority (meaning you as a moderator on the WP forum) would suggest we look into. That shouldn't be considered an official endorsement, everyone has an opinion.

    And of course, you close without mentioning one, again wasting my time.

    Fact is, I have firsthand knowledge with two of the host companies that are listed on this WP host site and they both suck, DreamHost & Yahoo. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. Of course, no host, no blog. I know, my loss. Wait 'til I get another blog though!

    EDIT: Even going here http://wordpress.com/ (which is for WordPress to host you) says nothing about what they offer or what you can or cannot do.

  19. citeewurkor
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    BillyG, chill and go get an account with http://www.bluehost.com

    I've never had a problem with them.

  20. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 8 years ago #

    From the hosting page, in two years here I have never seen a single complaint about Laughingsquid.

    A Small Orange are very good.
    Site5 are good.

  21. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Below10: They are excellent. Why you didn't receive a reply mail I have no idea (unless you were as impolite with them as you have been here lately); I've never been more than 20 minutes waiting for them to respond even before I set up with them.

    Moshu: Below10 was ref'd in the post you linked to on bj's blog.

  22. dmagus
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Getting mixed signal about Bluehost. Here's its fine, but refer to:-

    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/56453?replies=3

    So how? :)

    I'm currently with Powweb (which is no longer recommended, btw). Speed issues and limited mySQL dbs prompted me to hint for a new host. Whadayaknow? WP recommends Yahoo! So off I jumped with both feet in.

    It took 3 days to migrate my site (luckily the original is still live). Had so many stumbling blocks (not all due to Yahoo :)), and their built in plugins caused lotsa of unnecessary issues. To date (day 5), there are things not functioning properly and needs tinkering.

    No tech skill + no support= lotsa frustration and wasted time. I'm just about ready to pack it. On a features vs price consideration, Bluehost seems sooo tempting.

  23. citeewurkor
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I haven't noticed any issues that that article refers to. The only issue I've had (I use Bluehost) in the last couple weeks was using FTP. I called them and they told me to switch to passive mode, which fixed the problem.
    I've been with them for quite awhile now and am very satisfied. I finally dumped Yahoo because of zero support on their side.
    All I can tell you, dmagus, is that I've never had a problem with them.

  24. wescar
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    For what it is worth, and let me know if anyone has had any problems with them so I can look out in the future. I use hostgator.com. Three things, I have had sites with them for over a year and a half and haven't run into anything I couldn't do on my own (seems to be wide open whether it is a good thing or not). Two, you can offer reseller hosting and try to make a buck or two back for only a few dollars more, or if you have multiple domains, it is a great way to save on your hosting costs. Three, cpanel, fanstico (which will install wordpress 1.5 for you), mysql, phpmyadmin, and tons of scripts.
    I resell their server space and sell it for less than they do and they give me the software to do it. I have operated more than three wp installs on one domain (my kids blog pages) and have never had a database error yet.
    Hope this may help some.

  25. sfong15
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I can offer my little experience here as a few names mentioned above are familiar. I have been with dreamhost for about 10 days, so much trouble I left to Site5. I still have account with them and still getting server down emails from Dreamhost from time to time. However they are good in paying you back.

    Site5 is small but people are great there if you are newbie/no-brainer like me go for them.

    I recently joined Yahoo, just for fun, created some troubles for myself but that was good for learning.

    Don't expect the kind of humanly service like smaller hostings, you don't get straight answers most of them time and all the time you don't get answers to all your questions. Just don't use them if you are new to hosting.

    They don't run Apache at the backend, that's for sure. So your permalink must have /index.php/ prefix, that's in the instruction so follow it you'll be OK. I have initial problems creating database but that was probably due to my lack of knowledge about phpMyAdmin, can't blame Yahoo. I haven't fallen in love with 2.0 yet so I manually installed 1.5.2 without much hassle so I won't say Yahoo has a major issue with database user and the like. I did ask them to manually grant me full privileges such that I could reload mysql, it was done OK. Their ftp server isn't very stable, be ware of transferring folders with lots of files.

    Once in a while you can't login to phpMyAdmin and I have to say their servers are not fast comparing to smaller hosting.

    My warning is that don't use them if you are new to hosting.

  26. Kaknu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I used Yahoo as a host quite a few years ago. Just like gdvw I found them to be rather expensive for what they offered, and I hadn’t done any research/didn’t know better. I currently use http://www.realwebhost.com/ for my wordpress blog and I’m very happy with them. I’ve been with them for about a year and a half to two years.

  27. sfong15
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi all,

    One more thing about Yahoo is that, you pay by month instead of yearly payment for smaller hostings, i.e. you can quit and within 30days you can rejoin. I haven't yet looked into how to quit presumably I don't need to serve notice or anything like that so maximum lost is a month's fee. Anybody has cancellation experience for Yahoo here?

    Have to say again, practice your backup and restore of database just in case.

  28. Kaknu
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Most hosts will allow for month to month payments. I know mine does. They just offer the annual payment as a cheaper overall option, and if you leave you do get your money back for the time you didn't use. Just my opinion - but if you see 30 day payments as a perk because you can leave without worrying about refunds then you're with the wrong host (same goes for personal relationships). :p

  29. ptambwe
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Choose Yahoo! hosting is the worst choice I ever made and it really gives bad publicity to wordpress. My site was contantly down, at times I couldn’t even connect to my webhosting manager.

    I run a popular weblog and when big sites like Yahoo! (ironically) linked to my site, giving me spectacular exposure, it wend down again.

    It’s funny to see that the Yahoo! search pages are never down because they're a big business. It’s not because we run small businesses that we have to be treated like sh*t.

    Stay away from Yahoo! hosting at all costs! I’ve been with them for two weeks and I’m switching. Damn, even the robbers and liars over at lunarpages have a higher uptime.

    And one last thing, when a customer send two mails for support and is completely ignored, it’s not Yahoo! anymore, it’s Yapooh!

  30. Mark (podz)
    Support Maven
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Look at the bottom:
    http://wordpress.org/hosting/

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