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WP2.1 really sucks (36 posts)

  1. arthurmustafa
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I was hoping that this new version will be better than the old ones, but its actually a lot worse.
    Many, many problems with it.
    Now i wonder why i upgraded my 2.0.5 which was great.
    It seems to be some sort of race of these new versions "improuved" or so they say. Now i can
    even introduce an image in a page.
    I`m disapointed.
    Maybe you should wait with new releases until you are absolutely sure about them.

  2. Evita
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Explain your problems, maybe we can help.

  3. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    If you have a dump of your database before the upgrade you can retrograde to 2.0.7 without much trouble.

  4. heather16
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    How exactly do you retrograde back to 2.0.7?

  5. xinfo
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    It's alway have a demo site running in you'r pc .You can play well before you deploy in live site

  6. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Actually, 2.1 is a significant improvement from the 2.0 series, and works incredibly well.

    Of course, if you're having issues, you really should post what those issues are instead of complaining in an entirely useless manner.

  7. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    heather16: assuming you have a database dump (backup) from your 2.0+ wordpress install, you'd delete all of the wordpress 2.1 files (EXCEPT your wp-config.php file and any special themes you use), and upload the (probably) 2.0.7 files; then drop the tables from the database (don't drop the database itself, just the tables) using phpmyadmin; then import the 2.0+ database dump and once that's done, visit the wp-admin area and if you get an upgrade link, click on it.

    I haven't tried this, since I haven't installed 2.1 - but this should work, it's just a fairly normal process.

  8. theposterpreviouslyknownas
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    vkaryl, the best advice ive seen on these forums in the last week.

    >>Actually, 2.1 is a significant improvement from the 2.0 series, and works incredibly well.

    Not to be argumentative, but thats pretty subjective.

  9. ekusteve
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    The best advice is by [xinfo] in this thread.

    Steve

  10. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    ekusteve: also true. I have several.... NONE of which is running 2.1.

  11. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    [*sigh* too late to edit previous]

    Biggest problem with local setup/test/play is that it's not always the same once you load it up online. For a lot of reasons.

  12. arthurmustafa
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    ok, i admit, when i wrote this post i was very mad because i just upgraded my WONDERFUL WP 2.0.5 to 2.1 and suddenly everything went wrong: most of my plugins were not working anymore, so my sidebar and navigation were messed up; the SHOW MORE link was reduced to INLINE - exactly what i was trying to evoid; i could not write a post and include an image within for some sort of reason; same for writing new pages; not to say about modifying existing pages, that was not possible; visual and code modes are NOT WORKING as they are supposed to.
    i followed the specified steps for step by step upgrade of wp2.1 but all these problems appeared so you must understand that i was made because i had to stay 2-3 more hours to try and fix my site. im a photographer and my work is on my site, i have a lot of visitors every day, i cannot let my site just go crazy like that. that evening i stayed in front of the computer until i re-installed WP2.0.5.
    but after that installation i don
    t know why my pages were transformed into posts, i had to re-write my pages, my links. thank god my posts were ok !
    now im using WP2.0.5 again and everything goes very well, i have no errors.
    please tell me if i did something wrong or this new version is so full of bugs that it must be exterminated :) i
    m joking of course. i saw many things that i liked in WP2.1 but not as many as flaws.
    i hope i didn`t upset anybody but if this improuved software is something else that expected i think my reaction is justified.
    best wishes

  13. Samuel B
    moderator
    Posted 7 years ago #

    It seems the main problem with the 2.1 upgrades (new installs are fine) is that folks are not deactivating all of their plugins (big mistake for 2.1 upgrades) and/or are using themes that are not updated and still using deprecated tags.
    None of this is the fault of the WP software.
    I think more careful consideration of the upgrade process could do wonders. :>)

  14. robradcliffe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I can't even do what I want in the default WP theme provided, without going in and editing code. I could point and click last time, now I have to edit code.

    I'm talking about customising the way link categories display, btw - I have been given a page with a load of tags I can use, but as far as I can see, I even need to edit the code of the default template to use these template tags, the option to change these settings using a link category edit kind of function is gone...

    Going from point/click to editing code is not a good step forward for a lot of non-techncial end user bloggers.

  15. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 7 years ago #

    robradcliffe: Then don't upgrade. 2.07 is still supported code. It will be updated for quite a while yet.

    Everybody else: If you don't understand PHP, if you don't understand code, if you don't understand how WordPress works: Do not Upgrade to 2.1 yet. Simple.

  16. Tdude
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hmmm. I've upgraded all my 6-7 sites to 2.1. All MY OWN php hacks were of course terminated and I'm still having some issues, but considering how little time I put in for 2.1 I think it's running great! How much more time did you spend on your 2.05 vs. 2.1? It could be months...
    Consider that for a second and send some thank you's to all the gals n' guys sweating what should be your dirty code work.
    Just a thought from a stormy Åre.
    /T

  17. worrypascanada
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi,

    I wish to revert back to 2.0.7, from 2.1. Yes, I made the mistake (forgot) of not deactivating my plugins before the migration to WP 2.1. What does the database dump looks like? I have the following, wrdp1.gz et patrimoi_wrdp2_dur_20070123_624.sql.gz, backup made before migrating to 2.1.

    Thanks for your support.

  18. robradcliffe
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Otto42 I can figure it out and get it working. I was making a point that a lot of people won't.

    Also, when you come to the first page on the wordpress site, it says "Download 2.1!!" It doesn't say watch out this might break your blog, it doesn't say, stay at 2.07 if you want for now, it just says the latest stable version is 2.1 and encourages people to download it.

    With so many upgrades to 2.0 recently, I know a lot of people who just upgraded to 2.1 thinking it was another necessary update for security as well as extra features.

    Sure it will all get smoothed out in the end, I just see a lot of people spending a lot of time fixing broken blogs after (apparently misguidedly) installing 2.1...

  19. karaokediva
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    "Everybody else: If you don't understand PHP, if you don't understand code, if you don't understand how WordPress works: Do not Upgrade to 2.1 yet. Simple."

    I don't necessarily fully understand PHP, code or how WP works, but I upgraded to 2.1 with no problem and I love it.

    If your business relies on your website, you don't just upgrade without testing it first. That is just asinine.

  20. jabecker
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    robradcliffe -- have to agree with you. Even if you go to the Upgrade page, there's a warning about PHP versions, etc., and way down at the bottom there's a link to plugins that work. But nothing about broken themes and no warning that you might end up with a mess.

  21. loveguitarncomp
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi Guys,

    Imagine, If you have done 10 to 20 sites using WordPress 2.0.7 or older version and you are forced to upgrade to 2.1 because there are security issues in 2.0.7...how do you manage to upgrade without breaking anything?

    Why can't wordpress manage different stable versions and support all the stable versions that exist....We might not be interested in all the new features and might be happy with the old features but bugs or security fixes in the old version should be patched and the vertsion should be kept alive...

    Just like Apache/Php/Mysql...see how they do it...

    Regards,
    D

  22. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 7 years ago #

    ...and you are forced to upgrade to 2.1 because there are security issues in 2.0.7...

    Huh? Why not upgrade to 2.0.8 instead? There's no reason to go to 2.1 for "security issues".

    http://wordpress.org/wordpress-2.0.8.zip

    All versions can be found here: http://wordpress.org/download/release-archive/

    Why can't wordpress manage different stable versions and support all the stable versions that exist....We might not be interested in all the new features and might be happy with the old features but bugs or security fixes in the old version should be patched and the vertsion should be kept alive...

    They *do*. They *are*. This has been already stated a number of times.

    Like I said, the 2.0 line will continue to be supported and upgraded for a long time. You don't have to go to 2.1 if you don't want to do so.

  23. Doodlebee
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    But nothing about broken themes and no warning that you might end up with a mess.

    Hmm...so any time you get a major upgrade of something you've used for a while, you *never* expect it to change how certain things work for a bit? Case in point, IE7. If you've designed your site's layout for IE6, imagine how messed up it looks in IE7 right now.

    Would you have expected that? Hell yes. It's a major upgrade, and IE finally listened to the vast majority of developers out there, and finally made it so that it functions better (not completely, ugh, but better) with web standards. To do this, they had to make some things in older versions *not* work anymore.

    It's the same for *any* major upgrade. And with WP 2.1, I have to say, it seems to me the guys looked at many complaints, requests, issues and other things and implemented them in this new version. I was *happily* surprised the other day when I got to play with the new WYSIWYG editor - and it's *nice* - it's not a screwed up as the 2.0 versions. Many of the hacks I had to implement to get exactly what I wanted are now fully integrated into the system, and I don't need them anymore.

    To expect a *major* upgrade to have some issues with older code is not a wise thing to think. Just like people who created sites to be perfect in IE6, and are now finding them completely messed up in IE7 - you have to take into account that many themes and plugins were made for an older version that has been *improved*, and some things may not work as they did before. You can bet your butt that the good ones are already working towards an upgrade for the new release so you can still have them.

    But again, you shouldn't expect old stuff to work *exactly* how it did with seriously new stuff. You *should* expect a few surprises - which is why (as someone else said) you should try it out *before* you implement it on, say, a live site running your business. That way you can mess with things until they are how they should be. And so far, I haven't had many issues at all. A couple of unexpected things, but they were quickly ironed out (and I didn't get my panties in a wad about it, either).

  24. Samuel B
    moderator
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Also, there is a theme compatibility list:
    http://codex.wordpress.org/Themes/Theme_Compatibility/2.1

  25. loveguitarncomp
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hi,

    What is the expected lifetime for each version? eg. 2.0.8 This would help me anticipate the time after which an upgrade is a must...

    Cheers,
    D

  26. miletjs
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I second the motion, it appears that 2.1 sucks.

    See my thread here:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/105614?replies=4

    And up to now, this is still not yet resolved. I am suspecting that the .js of Ajax is the root of all these problems I'm encountering from version 2.0.7 to version 2.1

    It appears to me that the most stable version there is 2.0.5

  27. guidedog
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I am working now on that old bugaboo-- "enable sending referers" -- and because that problem persists even after trying most of the fixes, I find myself willing to do ANYTHING that would make that easier. Did changes in v2.1 make this issue less likely?

    It does seem to be ZoneAlarm, not the butler, that did it...

  28. guidedog
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Sorry not to have included my version in the last post.

    I took advantage of my hoster's existing install of WP2.0.2 (Maybe 2.0.1?). That is, I did not install it myself. So the question of learning to install remotely and fix new problems looks like I have to either live with the time commitment, ot pick a different solution.

    I'm a teacher (5th grade) and I love having a blog... for me, for the kids to see what it's "about". We are in a rural area with few computers at home. But I don't get paid for having a blog. I am taking time from teaching duties that are recognized by my bosses to do this so I think it's on to another platform or technology like a wiki... something that I won't have to work on so much.

    I do like learning how to do these things, but the students are suffering for the time lost and the tool they were using is broken, due probably to the wrong mixture of software on the client side.

    There's no one to blame here. Just a new set of "bad fit for me--gotta switch." events.

  29. miletjs
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    hi guidedog, i didnt understand your post :(

  30. viharsheth
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    For some reason in WP 2.1 when you click the Manage button the link is:

    http://www.site.net/wp-admin/admin.php?page=edit.php

    instead of

    http://www.site.net/wp-admin/edit.php

    Therefore, I have to manually edit the address to get to the page on which I can edit previous posts. Anyone know how to change the link permanently or why this problem is occurring?

    Thanks.

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