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  1. nicknormal
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    greetings.
    i'm interested in using the WP-Andreas09 theme for a long-term blog of multiple (30+) authors. i like the Andreas09 theme because it is fluid and 3 column, and seems pretty low-fi but capable of hi-fi results (unlike the new Apple iPodHiFi *snap*). given these guidelines, i'm curious if anybody out there knows if:

    there is a site using the Andreas09 theme but which is heavily modified? i'm curious to see what other applications this theme has been put to use? so far i just see sites with different colour schemes/headers. nobody has heavily modified the sidebars, why not? is this a limitation of the theme or is it possible? i've noticed this theme has NO support for subpages??? is that right? i installed this theme on a dev install of WP and noticed that i can't get a subpage to show up anywhere!

    are there other limitations to this theme? has anybody delved further into the code to find out?

    cheers
    nick_normal

  2. Ainslie
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I am working on version 2 now with subpage support.

    It is only limited by your ability to add the functions you need

    What do you need it to do? I will help if you give me an idea of what you are looking for.

  3. nicknormal
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Ainslie,

    love the template, btw! one of the most fluid themes ive seen and very fast loading.

    there are some things i can see myself wanting to develop inside the template, as well as a few other questions i have, and who better to ask than the author!

    1. not sure how easy it is to change the sidebar widths without throwing the whole theme into disarray? is it simply changing one line of CSS or is there more involved? i think my employer and i would like to employ one sidebar with a little 'extra-wide' functionality - if it's as simple as changing 'sidebarleft' to more pixels wide then great!

    2. in the content column, if an image of say 1000 pixels width is inserted, does that push the whole template to 'leftsidebar-padding-1000pixels-padding-rightsidebar' wide? now don't think i'm saying this is bad, this is actually what we want. we want our authors to be able to throw up 800w images w/o having to worry about resizing or using thumbnails. and want to make sure the whole theme will 'flex' to the width of whatever is thrown inside of it.

    3. and then my main concern, which is why i started this thread: for subpages, we were thinking of something like in the WP admin interface, how the main navigation is blue with black text, but if you click on anything with multiple sub-menus, like 'Options' or 'Presentation', etc., you get that third row of black with white text, with the active page like a tab of white with black text. this is really how we think and how most of our audience would easily follow this navigation for pages and sub-pages, with all the other navigatable links to be thrown into the sidebars.

    we'll probably only start off with about 8 authors, but within two years we'll be upwards of 30 because of the nature of our company, we're a non-profit engaged with the arts community.

    looking forward to version2, reallly great work by the way. cheers!

    nick_normal

  4. Ainslie
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Ok here goes, sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

    1. There is a little more than just changing the sidebar width as you also have to adjust the margins of the content.

    2. Anything that is too wide will just have it's overflow hidden. Remember that this is a fluid design and will shrink/stretch for different resolutions. 800px wide will be fine on some screens but too big on others.

    3. The sub-page menu you describe would be nice but as yet I am not sure how to make it work beyond 1 level of sub-pages. I'll see what I can do.

    I am working on version 2 now but can't give you an answer as to when it will be ready. I am working on it between other things as I get inspiration. Hopefully you have a lot of patience!

  5. nicknormal
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    ainslie,
    thanks for the response! yes i have lots of patience! i would presume your template to be upgradeable too, or at least with documentation on anything that might need tweaking post-updgrade.

    yes, i too thought over the weekend about the more-than-1 sub-pages dilemma. i've seen in other themes the sub-pages show up in a side column. but sometimes it's not visually obvious the sub-pages are related to the page the user has navigated into, so i thought a solution to this would be a simple CSS hack: a thin colored stripe that goes under the main navigation (pages) and connects to left or right side column, which then goes vertically down the side column, same colour as the thin stripe, with all levels of sub-pages there. could be pretty effective i think, and if the colours are all relative i think it would be a logical navigation structure.

    thanks for your insights.

    cheers
    nick_normal

  6. Ainslie
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Sub-pages in the sidebar are quite easy to implement with a plugin but if you have a horizontal menu then it seems logical to also do the sub-pages the same way as many sites do. Though I have not seen a WordPress theme do it yet. Has anybody seem one that does?

    I don't think it will be to difficult to have 1 level of sub-pages pop up in a bar below the parent pages using a modified plugin, but beyond that I think it may get tricky. Of course 1 level of sub-pages would be better than no sub-pages.

    I need to do some more research as I think I have seen something about css popup menus that may fit the bill. If the first level of sub-pages pop up in a bar below the parents and then any further levels pop-up when they are hovered on :-) It must be possible - I just need to get my head round it! It may take me a while.

  7. Ainslie
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I have just added simple sub-page navigation to my sidebar on http://webgazette.co.uk it works but there is no current page highlighting at the moment.

    This could of course be made horizontal with css and moved up under the page menu. I am just going to have to try and see how it looks and what happens when there are sub-sub-pages.

  8. Kahil
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    i'm using a modded version myself...

  9. Ainslie
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I have added a basic horizontal sub-page menu to my site and would value some feed back.

    http://webgazette.co.uk - look for the themes pages.

    TIA

  10. Chris_K
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    As an amusing note: I had to force my cache to clear as first I saw an uordered list (cached CSS from my visit yesterday I suppose). Lol.

    However, after the cache clear I must say that I really really like how you did those sub menus!

  11. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I like them too Ainslie.. =) Just I was trying to figure out how to do that, while hovering over them, (the top nav buttons) kinda like they have at the http://www.macromedia.com/ website..

    Scroll over say the contact button and then subs would drop down horizontally below it..

    I'd love to implement that into A08r lol.. Just not sure how to with the menu setup though...

    spencerp

  12. nicknormal
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    spencerp, well the macromedia website uses... Flash! for their navigation!
    obviously there are different ways to do this, but in a way that is natively familiar to a WP user (say a newbie) might be the challenge.
    here's a sub-menu that i reckon is completely driven by css:
    http://nymag.com/news/index.html
    scroll through the main nav, watch below, defnite IE hacks are needed here though.
    and here:
    http://roulette.org/
    however their system somehow uses JavaScript because when JS is disabled the subnav doesn't work.

    i think there are two options here: having the theme with sub-pages only 1 level deep, which is specified in documentation/readme 'Sub-pages will list only one level deep' or attempt to get the extended sublevels to show via rollover... A List Apart has some examples of this. i had bookmarks... somewhere.

    anyhow nice thread going here. nice to see some development spurring along.

    cheers
    nick_normal

  13. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Thanks so much for those links nicknormal.. =) Yeah, I knew they used flash for their menus from before, just used it as a quick example.. =)

    I just could have sworn that I had seen a WP theme using that menu type.. but maybe I'm wrong..mmm.. Either way, I'll have to check them links out you gave me.. =)

    I was kind of throwing that question to Ainslie/ or anyone really.. but Ainslie was the one that helped me get those menus working with the following code for it:

    <?php if (is_page()) { $highlight = "page_item"; } else {$highlight = "page_item current_page_item"; } ?>

    <li class="<?php echo $highlight; ?>"><a href="<?php echo get_settings('home'); ?>">Home</a></li>
    <?php wp_list_pages('sort_column=menu_order&depth=1&title_li='); ?>

    But I'd guess that would be either impossible or semi impossible to implement that style/type of menu into that, and prolly just have to use DHTML, javascript or something of that nature I guess.. :/ I'm not sure, because I'm not really a "professional" at this stuff lmao!!

    But I love to tinker with stuff and is willing to learn, and I do try to do things.. but like I said above here, I'll take a gander at those links and see what I can do.. =)

    spencerp

    p.s. Even though I like some javascript, most ppl might not have it enabled..which will/would suck then.. =(

    Almost have to have it open by default for the subs to display..but however, that would be messy when having 5 links at top with 5 links per sub lol!!

    Could do it the way this haizeak_v4 theme was done I guess..

  14. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    By those link types, are you meaning just the look from macromedia? Wuhan/Wuhan Autumn are by Meng's on words drawn from the look of the m'media site....

  15. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    By those link types, are you meaning just the look from macromedia? Wuhan/Wuhan Autumn are by Meng's on words drawn from the look of the m'media site....

    Well, basically I guess..but more of a drop down script that macromedia uses for the subs for each "main" top nav link.. =) Example like here: http://wuhan.authenticasian.com/autumn/

    If scrolling over link 1 or link 2 and so on.. While over the link 1, would drop down the sub links of that link 1.. I think that would be a cool thing to implement into a WP theme.. =)

    I was thinking about it the past few days, but keep getting bugged on MSN and Yahoo lmao..can never get to anything.. (Not picking on anyone specific monkeyKING!) but anyways.. I'd love to try and get this working lol..

    spencerp

    [cough](And checking GamerZ's poll and rate plugins for him, because he's getting javascript errors, and he's trying to fix em..LOL!)[/cough]

  16. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Um. Yes dear.... Meng IS "authenticasian.com"....

  17. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I know V. I was just using it as an example, for the menu layout lol! =)

    Example like here: http://wuhan.authenticasian.com/autumn/

    If scrolling over link 1 or link 2 and so on.. While over the link 1, would drop down the sub links of that link 1.. I think that would be a cool thing to implement into a WP theme.. =)

    Sheesh lol..did I do something to make ya mad or whatever..? If I did, I'm sorry.. =(

    spencerp

  18. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hmm. No, I just thought you didn't realize that the link you gave WAS Meng's site.... I think I'm not "getting" you.... Wuhan/Wuhan Autumn are taken from the m'media site as to "feel", though no, the links don't do dropdowns. Then again, dropdowns are "so 90s" really, and don't work properly in all browsers, and cause accessibility problems for people with screen readers etc. so I probably thought you couldn't really mean you wanted that implemented....

    [eh, spence, believe me when I tell you that if I'm unhappy with you, you won't be in any doubt about it....]

  19. nicknormal
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    well now that i think about it, almost all the examples i've seen, or am interested in, are only one level of sub-pages deep. i've seen a few blogs/sites where 2+ levels made sense, but rarely.

    so maybe we could start with a one-level solution and develop after that :)

  20. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Then again, dropdowns are "so 90s" really, and don't work properly in all browsers, and cause accessibility problems for people with screen readers etc. so I probably thought you couldn't really mean you wanted that implemented....

    Haha, yeah..I suppose they are. :/ And yeah they do suck in alot of browsers..just was throwing out ideas or whatever, just because of alot using/coming out with all this AJAX, javascript menu stuff..

    I guess I shouldn't have even mentioned any of the above stuff then..sorry about it... =(

    [eh, spence, believe me when I tell you that if I'm unhappy with you, you won't be in any doubt about it....

    Heh, yeah I suppose so.. =( Dang, I really feel like having a beer tonight.. sigh

    spencerp

    I guess I'll just stick with answering/helping ppl by giving them links to the codex for certain things.

    And then just help them with little minor problems, because evidently my opinions, suggestions and what not are just ripped apart anyways..and don't count..screw it.

    Leave all the wonderful "ideas" for implementing things into a theme to the "professionals".. [rolls eyes]

  21. Ainslie
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Wow this thread has grown so much since I last visited yesterday.

    Hi Spencer how's that site doing? Looks like you are still at liberty :-) Hey as far as I am concerned you ideas are as good as anyone else's. ;-)

    There are some good tutorials on http://alistapart.com about CSS/Java dropdown menus. I think you need the java to kick IE into action as it won't apply the hover to anything but an anchor. (Typical!). I have seen a wordpress theme like this that looks like Kubrick but with a horizontal dropdown menu, but I can't remember its name. It's got to be on the theme viewer?

    So far I have only got one level to play nicely. I think one level would be enough in most cases but I really want to kick it's... and make it work.

    I used the Sub pages List plugin by Rob Miller http://pwnt.co.uk/blog/ that I hacked because it didn't seem to work on my site when I first tried it. Then I hacked it some more to output the links as I wanted them and then built it into the functions.php file. All the menu is is a div with an unordered list that is displayed inline with a little style to make it look good. Really very simple.

    I'm still playing with it at the moment and would like to keep the parent page highlighted when on a sub page but haven't got a clue how to do that yet.

  22. spencerp
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi Spencer how's that site doing? Looks like you are still at liberty :-) Hey as far as I am concerned you ideas are as good as anyone else's. ;-)

    Pretty good actually..but, just got a few S.S. of it the other day for a Mac Safari browser, and needs a little tweaking yet though..sigh.. And I don't have access to one, so I dunno about how to adjust it.. =(

    Hey as far as I am concerned you ideas are as good as anyone else's. ;-)

    Thanks for your kind words Ainslie.. =) Atleast you and "some" others do lol! =)

    There are some good tutorials on http://alistapart.com about CSS/Java dropdown menus. I think you need the java to kick IE into action as it won't apply the hover to anything but an anchor. (Typical!).

    Yeah, I was going to check that out then, just keep getting side tracked sigh.. =( But like I said above, was basically throwing that question to you, because you did help me alot, to get that top nav to work like it's supposed to for both IE and FF..

    And don't really want to throw it to the side ya know.. =( I guess I was kinda hoping to have a work around with the current code we have..but then I guess it might be impossible and would have to of course use CSS, javascript and maybe possibly other styles of code or something..

    And by going by what vkaryl was saying, it's kinda so 90-ish, and it most likely, in fact, certain.. that it won't be working right in various other browsers ..especially keeping the fact of users not enabling javascript or those with screen readers.. =(

    I just wished, that all the browsers worked like FF lol! Would be so much easier and nicer lmao! I dunno if there might be some way, of having it work correctly in various browsers or not, but would be nice to attempt it. =)

    I have seen a wordpress theme like this that looks like Kubrick but with a horizontal dropdown menu, but I can't remember its name. It's got to be on the theme viewer?

    That's exactly what I was saying too, I could have sworn I had seen one like this, but just can't find it now. =( I guess I'll have to whip out the old tracking devices or something lmao.. Put the google search on detective mode or something...track that baby down hahaha..

    I used the Sub pages List plugin by Rob Miller http://pwnt.co.uk/blog/ that I hacked because it didn't seem to work on my site when I first tried it. Then I hacked it some more to output the links as I wanted them and then built it into the functions.php file. All the menu is is a div with an unordered list that is displayed inline with a little style to make it look good. Really very simple.

    Awesome! I'll have to check that out then.. =) I love experimenting with this and that, especially taking "certain pieces" from various themes and try to make a different theme in itself..

    I'm still playing with it at the moment and would like to keep the parent page highlighted when on a sub page but haven't got a clue how to do that yet.

    Cool! I'd love to have the same menu and functionality that you helped me get on the A08r, but instead of having that lower nav image under it, have it a space for the submenu links.. and yet while say on About, it would be highlighted, and yet display the links related to that About button/link..below the nav bar.. =)

    Basically like I said above about Macromedia.com's, even though they are using flash for it, but of course ours would be something totally different.. Yet, the only problem that still remains is, cross browser compatibility, as well as those that have screen readers or whatever.. =/

    I dunno though, maybe with some heads together, we could figure all this out and have it work ok then.. not sure though of course haha.. =)

    spencerp

  23. nicknormal
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    the A List Apart tutorials are very good, but require some in-depth reading, looking at example sites, source, etc. just be ready to loose a few hours when you start!

    and i believe the other theme we've all seen with a horizontal navigation is Jillig. makes sense for page and sub-page navigation, not so much for other spaces like 'links' but whatever.

    cheers
    nick_normal

  24. che1959
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    First off, I love the theme. It is great.

    Secondly, I figured out how to remove the site name and description from the top of the page, which is step 1 of my eventual aim. I would like to put a graphic logo in place the site name/site description. What is the easiest or best way to do it? I am a newbie when it comes to hacking code, but I am eager to learn.

    Thanks!

  25. san_rcl
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Hi
    Im a newbie too. How did you get rid of the site name and description? I tried to do that and all I got rid off was the title of my page that appears in the title bar. I know Im removing the wrong code, but when I try to play with anythiing else, my code goes completely crazy forcing me to delete everything and start over.
    HELP!!!!

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