• I am a web developer. I came to wordpress.org because I am interested in integrating the wordpress framework into my existing site. I found it to be a frustrating experience, mostly because the wordpress.org site is f’n bloated with a bazillion links.

    I see it this way: you basically have two clients

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    Thread Starter cnanders

    (@cnanders)

    SORRY ABOUT ABOVE CUT OFF! — I went to Chipolte.com and Flash caused Safari to crash. I’m sure Steve would love to hear that. Back to my post

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    I am a web developer. I came to wordpress.org because I am interested in integrating the wordpress framework into my existing site. I found it to be a frustrating experience (the learning part), mostly because at wordpress.org it was hard to find the information I wanted.

    I see it this way: WP basically has two customers
    1) The person who knows nothing about web development. The “layman”
    2) The experienced web developer. The “developer.”

    The information WP displays to these two (very different) customers (regarding use / integration) should be very different. For example, all of “the Loop” lingo is laughable to a developer, yet I understand it is completely necessary for the layman.

    What I would LOVE is a “How WP works. How to use it. How to integrate it.” page that is split into two columns

    COL 1: <h1>I know nothing about web development. Speak my language.</h1>

    COL 2: <h1>I know PHP, MySQL, CSS, HTML,… give me the real deal.</h2>

    And from here, the “layman” and the “developer” are directed to different pages written with a completely different tone / vocab / etc. Being a developer, I would love to see a simple API-like set of methods / classes / etc with examples that show how to integrate the WP framework into my existing site. I mean, really, what developer wants to use a canned WP template? Probably not many. So this information should not be front and center.

    That said, the layman doesn’t ever want to see the words “class” “method”, etc. They care about templates, themes, blah blah.

    Anyways, this distinction wouldn’t be hard to make, and I think it would help BOTH types of WP customers by hiding the information each of them are not interested in reading.

    Sincerely,
    Chris

    am a web developer. I came to wordpress.org because I am interested in integrating the wordpress framework into my existing site. I found it to be a frustrating experience (the learning part), mostly because at wordpress.org it was hard to find the information I wanted.

    perhaps refining your queries in the search form will narrow your results.

    here’s an example in the forum topic search: integrate site with wordpress

    an example in the documentation section search: integrate site with wordpress

    And here is the first topic returned in the documentation search:

    Integrating WordPress with Your Website

    And at the risk of being overtly obvious, start with the Doc’s link at the top of this page.

    Thread Starter cnanders

    (@cnanders)

    Clayton,

    Of course I found those links.

    I would love to see a simple API-like set of methods / classes / etc with examples that show how to integrate the WP framework into my existing site.

    I couldn’t find this anywhere. One example is fine, but I’d love to see lots of examples – kind of like the jQuery.com website. And the pages you link above have “the Loop” terminology… hardly a ‘developer’ page. My point is that it seems like the WP docs are geared to a two-tiered audience, and they could make it a lot better for both by separating it.

    Thread Starter cnanders

    (@cnanders)

    Anyone can contribute or suggest ideas. Sounds like you have an interesting viewpoint. Perhaps you can add your voice or your knowledge here:

    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/415075?replies=48

    or here:

    Contributing to WordPress

    Docs > Main page > Developer Documentation

    Once in a while I get the horseshoe near the stake. 🙂

    Best wishes.

    Thread Starter cnanders

    (@cnanders)

    Thanks for this info:

    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/415075?replies=48

    or here:

    Contributing to WordPress

    I will let them know my ideas.

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