WordPress.org

Ready to get started?Download WordPress

Forums

wordpress recommended (20 posts)

  1. chuckblue
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    WordPress is now a suggested cms at Crosswinds-cadre.net , the volunteer's web site, on the recommended tools and utilities page.

    http://www.crosswinds-cadre.net/?page=recommended#cms

    Yes, I had a bit to do with it.

  2. Lorelle
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    And aren't you the sweetie for helping! Thanks.

    I love it when we get good news!

  3. chuckblue
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    You're welcome.

    Oh, its the folks who volunteer their time at the web host http://www.crosswinds.net that recommended wordpress.

    Argh, I need more sleep. I forgot to mention where it is we volunteer...

  4. Jinsan
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I dunno, WP as CMS when at present it's a blogging tool? Isn't this giving the wrong message to users who come in thinking WP is a great CMS and then find it's not a CMS at all. I;m sure a WP CMS will happen, but it's not a CMS, it's the best blogging tool available.

  5. brainwidth
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    WordPress is a CMS, it's just a CMS geared towards a particular form of presentation, i.e., chronological posts.

  6. chuckblue
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So what is it then ?

    I can tell the web site person and they can change it.

  7. Michael Bishop

    Posted 9 years ago #

    It is a blogging tool, that in particular instances, can be used quite well as a CMS.

  8. katesgasis
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    WordPress has matured into a CMS from being a blogging tool. With the right plugins, you could do a lot of things other "CMS" can. A well designed templates will allow you to manage how the content will be displayed. What's best is you only use those plugins you need. In short it is not bloated like *cough*Typo3*cough*.

  9. chuckblue
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Okay, now I'm more confused.

    Its a blogging tool thats also a cms ?

    Its mentioned under a section titled 'Content Management'. Blogger and MovableType is also in that same section.

  10. Jinsan
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I think it is confusing - I would personally say it is a blogging tool. Even MT is a blogging tool and they haven't evolved or matured into CMS's as such, they can be made up to closely resemble a CMS. I think Denis-de-Bernady's plugin does a decent job of it, but it's not a CMS out of the box.

    E107, PHPNuke, Mambo and the like are fully featured CMS software. BLOGCMS has tried to work as both a blog and CMS and it's pretty poor as a migration between the two. MT, WP, and TXP are also blogging tools, that can be made to look like CMS but again they're blogs out of the box.

    The Majority of CMS tools come built in with about 101 features that allow you to immediately create a community or business portal. CMS can be used as a blog, but there is a distinction. There are quite a few articles on this that you might Google for.

  11. graemep
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Firstly Crosswinds are including blog tools as CMS's. This is not unreasonable because, as was already pointed out, blog tools are specialised CMS's.

    Secondly, for a simple site, WordPress is quite a reasonable CMS.

    I set up this site http://moneyterms.co.uk/ last week using WP. I had to customise an existing theme and I had to write a bit of PHP to get what I wanted for the front page but overall it was not too difficult - if I had wanted a purely static front page that would have been easy, however I wanted a listing of posts by category which required a little work.

    One advantage for me is that I am using the same tool across three sites (one of which is a blog and the remaining one is very blog like).

  12. Jinsan
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I guess you can put this down to personal preference for the WP community it may seem nit pick as to whether it's described as CMS or a blog tool. Bogger could be set up to look like a CMS, for example, or live journal.

    http://www.opensourcecms.com/

    Although the above link isn't the holy, righteous guide on what's a CMS and what isn't, it's a good guide.

  13. chuckblue
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well, its not crosswinds.net that is listing it as a cms.

    WordPress is one of several items listed under Content Management on the crosswinds' volunteers' website.

    It does manage content, its just not a content management system.

    So, should it be listed as a blog tool, and not a Content Manager tool ?

    Thanks

  14. Jinsan
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Leave it to your own discretion :) personally I would say blogging tool with potential functionality of CMS. As I said, there is a disitinction as to how CMS and a blog works, although the lines between the two are slowly evaporating (e107 for example), it's not quite there yet. People talk about a WP CMS, so if WP is a CMS, then doesn't that make the idea of a future WP product perhaps WP CMS redundant?

    TXP users call TXP a CMS too, just as WP users call theirs a CMS, and the same goes for others, put the CMS and so-called CMS together and there is a huge variation in out of the box features, as well as the plugins.

  15. Michael Bishop

    Posted 9 years ago #

    Isn't the question really about user ability level/experience/willingness to learn a few new things? Out of the box, WP wouldn't be the best choice of CMS. However, knowing exactly what you want to do with the site, researching the right plugins, modifying a template...all would allow for the CMS functionality being discussed. But for the novice user, with little or no experience, it may not be the solution-yet. I definitely wouldn't excluded it from any lists, just clearly outline its original design purpose, as well its CMS possibilities.

  16. chuckblue
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    We did include a link to the codex as the location of tutorial and helpfiles.

    okay, we'll leave it as it is then.

  17. brainwidth
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Blogging tools and content management systems are not two different things. CMS is a generic term for software that manages documents, and in particular, for web sites. Blogging tools are a subset of the CMS category. (Didn't anybody here take set theory?)

  18. Kafkaesqui

    Posted 9 years ago #

    "Didn't anybody here take set theory?"

    I flunked it. Does that count?

    The problem with a catchall term like "content management system" is that a file manager could fall under it, depending on the definition in use. But CMS in IT parlance is both a general term for a collection of products WordPress fits into, and a label for larger, enterprise-portal and groupware packages. Calling WordPress a CMS (or CMS subset) is fine, as long as the usual caveats are given so one doesn't think they're dowloading a Mambo clone.

  19. carlbro
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    This thread has been inactive for a while but obviously is findable via Google because that's how I ended up here. How about a new designation?

    CMSF - Content Management System Foundation
    CMSBB - CMS Building Block

    Any other suggestions?

  20. davidchait
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    Heh. Actually, there's already terms. 'Portal', 'Groupware'... ;) Those describe certain vertical markets.

    CMS is a WAAAY generalized term, and WP certainly fits it. However, an 'enterprise CMS' might actually be a groupware app, or might be a 'document repository' app, or a 'project management' app (i.e., basecamp), etc.

    'content management' is just that. To what extent, to what particular application, is in the eye of the beholder. ;)

    -d

Topic Closed

This topic has been closed to new replies.

About this Topic

Tags

No tags yet.