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WordPress is it capable of creating a proper website? (7 posts)

  1. digitalgiraffe
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Hi,

    I have taken on a role of admin/maintenance of a site for a client who has a small site created in wordpress. I am familiar with joomla, phpnuke and mambo but no wordpress. They want to create an online community and easy to navigate site. So far after eading numerous articles and viewing as many word press sites as possible i have not seen a single theme or layout that is worthy of a commercial site. Am I wrong in assuming WP is capable of being called a CMS?

    Why does wordpress use such rediculous words to describe everything? Blogroll instead of links? Ping? slug?

    Can someone show me a wordpress site that is comparable to something that is made by joomla (or similar) or am i getting completely lost because wp is not a CMS?

    I dont mean to sound negative but it just does not seem to be a very professional CMS (if it is. All i want to do is create a nice clean site with a hellof a lot of content for site users.

    Thanks for your time,

    Paul

  2. whooami
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    So far after reading numerous articles and viewing as many word press sites as possible i have not seen a single theme or layout that is worthy of a commercial site.

    I chalk that up to being one of those things attributable to being in the eye of the beholder. In other words, there are thousands of very professional sites running WordPress. Additionally, you need to consider that themes, largely speaking, are free. Most commercial endeavors, being commercial, pay to have a custom theme done -- they dont opt for a free theme.

    One thing WordPress strives for, as do most theme authors is sematically correct code. Ie, the sites validate to web standards - I can find plenty of business sites that dont validate - your own is just one. (No jab intended, it was just an easy point to make.)

    Its all in the eye of the eye of the beholder. Honest.

    Am I wrong in assuming WP is capable of being called a CMS?

    WordPress is, first and foremost, a blogging tool. I dont care what anyone else says, here are Matt's own words:

    WordPress started in 2003 with a single bit of code to enhance the typography of everyday writing and with fewer users than you can count on your fingers and toes. Since then it has grown to be the largest self-hosted blogging tool in the world, used on hundreds of thousands of sites and seen by tens of millions of people every day.

    That is not say that it cannot be CMS-like, or that many of the fucntions that are found in a CMS cannot be found in WordPress, etc, etc.. just that it's built to be a blog.


    Why does wordpress use such rediculous words to describe everything? Blogroll instead of links? Ping? slug?

    Most terminology used is specific to the application, and widely understood amongst the audience that uses the tool. That's like asking a mechanic why an alternator is called an alternator.

    For instance, in the case of the blogroll -- its not called links, because that isnt all it is. A list of links is nothing BUT that.

    The definition of the word blogroll: "a list of links on a blog" is outdated since the actual blogroll function has evolved into much more than simple list.

    Can someone show me a wordpress site that is comparable to something that is made by joomla (or similar) or am i getting completely lost because wp is not a CMS?

    I dont use Joomla, I never have, but I am sure that I can find you plenty of Joomla sites that I, personally, think look like crap as easy as I can find you a wordpress site that looks like something made using joomla.

    I dont mean to sound negative ...

    If you dont mean it, you sure sound it, and wouldnt need to qualify your remarks if you didnt know it :)

    All i want to do is create a nice clean site with a hellof a lot of content for site users.

    See above.

    Here's a great link too, right out of the horse's mouth (so to speak):

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Introduction_to_Blogging#The_Difference_Between_a_Blog_and_CMS.3F

    The above link is intended to explain the core differences between a blog and a cms -- I am not suggesting that WordPress wouldnt work for you. But it's good to know what you are walking into before you open the door.

    Additionally, you might want to poke around the demo if you havent already:

    http://www.opensourcecms.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2143

  3. Ryan
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I actually converted one of my sites from a CMS (Etomite) to WordPress because I wanted blog-type features and I like the admin interface better. The bulk of the pages are done as pages and not posts. Using pages also takes care of the /2007/09/15/post-name/ type urls for most of the pages. The clincher for me is that I wanted my visitors to be able to leave comments on any of the pages and Akismet really helps with the spam problems.

    Yes it took me a couple of days to create a custom theme, but now that it's done it's much easier for me to maintain.

  4. digitalgiraffe
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Thanks for the response guys.

    I've read a hell of a lot of threads and articles about WP over the last week. I'm not using it by choice, it was already there from the previous site manager.

    I think my clients requests (while achievable in WP) will take longer than he is prepared to pay for.

    I'll be trying to convince them to change to joomla ( i've had a lot more experience with this and its a proper cms) the themes are easily created also. The clients budget is small and he wouldnt be able to afford for me to create a whole new layout/theme from scratch.

    Cheers

    Paul

  5. nolageek
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    So what your saying is... you COULD do it in WP, you just don't know how.

    And for the record...

    Joomla: http://nokiaportugal.com/
    Wordpress: http://www.kineda.com/

    Joomla: http://www.muzikmovementnewz.com/
    Wordpress: screenshot of The Morning After theme

  6. Cossovich
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I thought Joomla folks were too busy forking their code base and picking fights with Drupal to troll our forums.

  7. yeleek
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Good example of cms on WP

    http://www.hottogs.com/

    I dont mean to sound negative but it just does not seem to be a very professional CMS (if it is. All i want to do is create a nice clean site with a hellof a lot of content for site users.

    Easy then - mini loop to bring in what ever posts you do want on front page, WP pages for the rest and clean graphics.

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