WordPress email not sending to domain inbox

Thank you for the advice but changing my email provider is just as much avoiding the problem as using SMPT mail.

There will be a solution to why the wp_mail process is conflicting with my (very popular) host’s email policies (which are, no doubt very pragmatic reasonable policies.)

Although I agree there may be some benefits.. I don’t agree that you can only find out why by using paid for providers.

Intelligence and knowledge should provide a simple solution, and probably some valuable education in the process. Otherwise it is ignoring the problem.. a problem that other clients and friends may want solving eg: if I’m asked why wordpress email doesn’t work with their email inbox.

Literally millions use mainstream hosting providers so it seems absurd to brush this issue under the carpet.

Thanks for the suggestion though, I will seriously consider it.. but I (and no doubt many others who would find a solution useful / educational) would love this problem solved for many reasons.

Rather than paying for a new car I’d rather educate the driver.

Thanks

1) No one suggested WP manage my host.

2) In initial post SMTP was ruled out for now while the problem is troubleshooted.

3) Am I referring to godaddy? Please read initial post if unclear.

4) There are lots of issues because there are millions of users. Very low volumes of people will have low volumes of issues. High volumes of people will have high volumes of issues. It’s the most popular host in the world so therefore the most users to have issues.

If out of 100 blue cars sold 34 people have a question per day about their car on a forum, and of the 1000 red cars sold there are 70 question about their car per day on the forum: You might think because there are more red car posts that red cars are less reliable or badly made. Maths can provide insight into the trouble with this assumption:

Blue:
34 / 100 = 0.34 posts per car per day

Red:
70 / 1000 = 0.07 posts per car per day

Red is 5 times more reliable

So counting posts on forums doesn’t necessarily prove anything.

Although most are well aware that it’s popular to bash godaddy.. there is a lot of myth involved in this area, much of which has proved to be (via examination) based on error, posturing, chit chat and naive assumptions.

If a kind and clever person could suggest a solution instead of simple, insubstantial, detail-less attacks on godaddy, that would be great and could help others in this situation!

If you are aware of the solution with your special unbiased experience please share as you may well help other users.

If not then I’m unsure what your point is.

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For example if you’re saying objectively that the answer is “godaddy is doing it wrong” then it would be helpful to everyone involved if you let us in on the specific info.

I assume there is specific info?

Thanks for the reply.

“Every server seems to be configured differently.” I doubt this. There may be servers that are configured differently *by the end user* but the idea that they randomise config of server / hosting installs is untenable. Linux / ms servers will have dif config obviously.. and diff package is a diff package etc etc

Issues with images.. godaddy doesn’t like images? Seems unrealistic. I suggest godaddy hosting deals with images perfectly well. If the end user fails to correctly use images or config then they can fail on any host. [inappropriate comments moderated]. I have no doubt the relative amount of rookies using gadaddy is quite high as the prices are good and it’s the most popular service, so easy for rookies to find and join. Rookies make mistakes.

Re: Blocking PHP mail. Why would they block PHP mail?? I spoke to tech about this and they don’t block php mail. I’ve used linux servers hosted by gd for years and never had issue with php or any other mail. In fact the suggest to use it in the documentation, and have php mail scrips available. **End users** may block it or screw the config up so it doesn’t work. Again, why would they choose block it on standard linux hosting? There is no php mail boolean randomiser. So much heresay, where’s the fact? 🙂

And I’ve lost count of the number of topics where one server blocks wp-mail() whilst another allows it and a third even rejects mail at the SMTP server.

This is getting to the root! Why is the *host* the problem. Surely wp_mail could run in a framework that doesn’t cause it to conflict with otherwise standard, common hosting? For example wp_mail may not be being *blocked* at all.. it’s just failing, due to the wp install, to negotiate the simple hosting structure, for example (not saying this is a real example): If WP is installed in root directory email works but if it is in a subdir with an alt domain pointing to the subdir then wp_mail does not work due to it being passed bad info from the WP installer / WP config etc.

I’m not going to claim to be an expert or know the answers, but what I do know is it’s very common amongst partnerships and companies in general to simply *blame* the other.

Look I’m not saying wordpress should necessarily be programmed better to cope with hosting per se, nor do I agree that GD hosting is a random crap shoot.. I think that is blowing smoke. It’s reliable hosting ime, and I bet you that if I bought hosting 20 times in a row it would be set up the same every time.. provided I didnt change it!.

I do know there are many many many people having trouble with wp_mail and not receiving WP emails, and most of them that I’ve seem are using a different hosting provider to GD.

So I don’t buy the Blame GD argument.

Although if it IS GD then it surely can’t be that hard to follow the breadcrumbs on this one given the WP users on GD would be many 10s of thousands at least. If it IS GD someone must know this mythical setting that GD supposedly would default causing wp_mail to fail?

I don’t know, and haven’t seen anyone who does..

Believe it or not, the circuit board is out of my phone at the moment else i’d call them.

But you asked for reasons

I asked for specific reasons / examples as to why you say godaddy is to blame for this email failure.

Example of that would be: There is evidence that godaddy *block* wp_mail here, and look at this piece of godaddy code here

What you have done, again is [Inappropriate comments moderated]. That wouldn’t imply systematic anyway, to do so shows faulty reasoning skills.

The topic is wp_mail. You say godaddy block it. Where’s the proof? [Inappropriate comments moderated]

You said GD caused it. I asked you for specifics. And you give me woolly offtopic anecdotes to paint a fanciful picture of [Inappropriate comments moderated] but no relevant facts about the specifics or evidence or code about GD blocking wp_mail; and therefore no help. [Inappropriate comments moderated]

If all you have are woolly slants to the effect of ‘some people whimper this and that about godaddy’, then this is not helpful to anyone.

Although you authoritatively assert it, you obviously don’t know GD is blocking my WP mail. GD partner with WP to provide wordpress hosting! Why would the block wp_mail??

You can’t provide specific evidence that wp_mail being blocked by GD because there isn’t any! [Inappropriate comments moderated]
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Wonder why that is

Again your logic is broken.

GD users access WP very well much of the time.

Many many Non GD users have many problems with wp mail too.

To suggest anything else is blatant misinformation.

Reality check: wp_mail fails in many situations whether GD or non-GD.

Your idea that GD is *blocking* my WP_mail is unlikely and baseless misinformation. And I’ll find a way to prove that on my way to solving this issue constructively and intelligently.

For example:

Those links show my plugin problems with wp_mail. They are not help nor proof of GD blocking wp_mail in ANY way.

FYI the other user in that thread with the exact same issue was not on GD. That speaks for itself.

I found this insightful:
http://www.butlerblog.com/2011/07/08/changing-the-wp_mail-from-address-in-wordpress-without-a-plugin/

Adding a filter to functions.php to change the default wordpress “from” address without using a plugin. Certain forms using wp_mail will send properly after this. YMMV. It’s simple code.