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[resolved] WordPress 2.7 admin look? (26 posts)

  1. taylorsatula
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    What is with the new wordpress admin theme it doesnt go with the theme or colors. Why did it change from the crazy horse theme to this nasty thing. Who's idea was that

  2. Samuel B
    moderator
    Posted 5 years ago #

    It's not finished for final release so...why gripe now?

  3. taylorsatula
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    well will it look kinda look like the crazyhorse look

  4. Samuel B
    moderator
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Similar

  5. 3stripe
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I hope they put a live-search box in the top right somewhere.

    Looking to be a great improvement though :)

  6. bradstinyworld
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    it was pointless to change the admin of wordpress, this is a worse move than going from 2.3 to 2.5 They should have left the damned thing alone and worked on functional improvements rather than giving it a slick ass microsoft improvement where you make it shiny and pretty while destroying everything good about the previous version. new doesn't equal better.

  7. jd.hartley
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    <cite>bradstinyworld</cite>
    it was pointless to change the admin of wordpress, this is a worse move than going from 2.3 to 2.5 They should have left the damned thing alone and worked on functional improvements rather than giving it a slick ass microsoft improvement where you make it shiny and pretty while destroying everything good about the previous version. new doesn't equal better.

    I strongly disagree, and here is why: The WP2.5 layout was good. It did have its problems though. It had such a huge header that it was impossible to fit anything on one page. Going from page to page was a huge pain in the rear and it was pathetic that the Dashboard served no purpose. I think the new WP2.7 layout will make the dashboard more useful, cut back on the amount of scroll and give more allowance to the screen (full screen width) and make going to subpages way faster. There will definitely be some things people won't like and they will eventually be changed (WP 2.8 will be here eventually).

    Just look at it this way: Most would rather use 2.7 than <2.3 -- it is definitely an improvement.
    -JD

    P.S. If X amount of people hate it enough, I am sure some plugin developer will create a CSS hack to make it go back (somehow...)

  8. astereo
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I assume none of you know a single thing about design.

    The 2.5 / 2.6 dash sucked. From a usability standpoint, it was absolutely horrible. This new dash is sleek and clean and a lot more up to par with modern applications.

  9. Hauckes
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I like the new look MUCH better that 2.5+
    However, there is a problem with the Screen Options for IE7 users, It doesn't show up.
    I tried it in FireFox and it's fine, but it doesn't work with IE.
    Most of my clients use IE in some version, so it has to work for me to recommend 2.7

  10. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    IE support should be there before the final release. the UI is improved on a daily basis if you keep updating it :)

  11. Jen Mylo
    Key Master
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Hauckes, in the beta release announcement, Ryan Boren made it clear that the display wasn't yet working correctly in IE and Opera. Firefox and Safari are currently displaying this as they are meant to be seen. IE an Opera fixes are being added every day, but Ryan will let people know we think IE is displaying correctly.

  12. parrfolio
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Matt,

    What is going on over there? The new wordpress admin interface is horrible, a usability nightmare and a design disaster. You had one of the greatest design studios (happy cog) in our present day redesign the admin interface you now you replace it with this!? I wonder what the god father of CSS has to say about this decision? Not only was WP Admin 2.5 a massive upgrade from previous versions, it was usable, designed well and functional. WP 2.7 needs to go back to the drawing board and focus on design, user stories and user experience, rather then adding jQuery animations, horrible font choices and non-existant design grid.

    I'm still shocked you went this route.

  13. Jen Mylo
    Key Master
    Posted 5 years ago #

    @parrfolio If you read the usability testing report that was posted on the dev blog recently, you'll see why we went in this direction.

  14. imnotaplumber
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    The WordPress 2.7 admin dashboard is a step back in terms of style. Previous versions of the WP admin had a strong visual style. WordPress is the easiest to use blogging platform out there, tweaking its IA is good and will improve ease of use. However changing the IA doesn't mean its visual style had to change. I did skim the testing report and can see how the changes will help ease of use. However, why does it need gradients behind the headers, crap icons in the menu.

    I really hope the style of the admin goes back to how it was in 2.5-2.6 but is structured like 2.7, please. Get Happy Cog onto it.

    @astereo I don't need to 'assume' you know nothing about design, I can see from your website you know nothing. When you get out of high school then give your opinion on others design knowledge.

  15. parrfolio
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    @janeforshort You still can pull off good design and usability. The left nav bar is so unconventional it makes it really difficult to use. For example the left nav bar is so long that I have to scroll down, click an item, let's say plugins (the page post's back) then I have to scroll down again to hit another action item. The collapsing convention is bad as well. It is annoying I have to open and close each section.

    @imnotaplumber I agree. The icons are the worst. I have seen this open source set before all over the place. Where is the designer? Design fresh new icons! The rounded corners and grey gradients have got to go. They serve no purpose for the user or the experience.

    Main navigation should almost always be tabular and at the top horizontally. You can take sub-navigation and place it in a sidebar for organization of items on a per page basis.

  16. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    About icons:
    http://wordpress.org/development/2008/10/calling-all-wordpress-loving-icon-designers/

    Minimising the left bar can make it easy to get access to all the options by hovering over the options. :P

  17. imnotaplumber
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    @sushubh I think they know what they are doing, it's just scary when people think it looks ok in it's beta design state ie. "new dash is sleek and clean and a lot more up to par with modern application"

  18. Samuel B
    moderator
    Posted 5 years ago #

    it's easy to set up a test site and help us with 2.7
    as for the admin - far from finished

  19. imranidris
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    it's easy to set up a test site and help us with 2.7
    as for the admin - far from finished

    Noted.

    Any chance I can upgrade to 2.7 and still maintain the 2.6 look? I can appreciate the amount of work that has gone into improving the admin area, and I don't mean to disrespect anyone here, but I think the 2.6 look is far better, simpler, and less torturous to the eyes than this new one.

  20. bradstinyworld
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    @parrfolio : Yes, yes, and some more yes. Finally someone else who understands why having that left hand navigation is such a bad idea.
    http://bradtheblogboy.com/wordpress-2/hate-wordpress-27/

    @astereo: Windows Me, Windows Vista, The Edsel, the bridge to nowhere all had sleek modern designs for their times. This is just one more case where fancy flash is put ahead of function.

  21. Jen Mylo
    Key Master
    Posted 5 years ago #

    We're keeping the left navigation. Sorry some of you don't like it; maybe you could get together and put out a plugin that would give you a different admin interface that suits your tastes. Just as many people chose to install the Fluency plugin to get a left nav before, and Ozh's drop down menus to get a minimized top menu bar, there will always be people who prefer something other than the design in core. However, the design is settled for the next few versions, so rather than complaining about how much you personally dislike it, your time might be spent more constructively working toward a plugin that would help resolve your situation.

  22. katiekitty
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    i have nothing much to say,
    wat i wan to say is wp 2.7 admin panel is sux!

    i hope to see there is an option for ppl to select to switch to the wp 2.6 admin panel layout, since most wp users already get used to it.

    and the old admin panel layout is definitely better than the new 1!!!

    i think there might be some ppl willing to take the risk to not updating to wp 2.7 just for the old layout. and i will be 1 of them. i rather having exploit in my wordpress than using the new stupid layout!

  23. david
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I respect the work of the community and I don't want to gloss over the many improvements in 2.7, but I agree that the interface has become too scripted, superfluous, and a tad unconventional.

    As a designer and developer I fall into the same trap all the time, so I am not throwing stones. It's tempting to do so many things in life, because we can.

    The customizations feel on some level like proof of concept parlor tricks which don't always streamline tasks or keep me oriented. I was also surprised at some of the type choices, and the overall busyness and lack of strong identity in the icons.

  24. MattButts
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Just an observation, but if you are using the Ozh' Admin Drop-Down Menus plug-in you need to de-activate it, or your dashboard will not display properly. If you have already installed 2.7 RC1 with the plug-in installed, you will not be able to get to Plug-In management from the dashboard and will have to load the page manually by going to (your blog)/wp-admin/plugins.php.

  25. Linda Lee
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    Matt, thanks for the heads up on Ozh drop down, I have been going crazy trying to even find my plugin panel, ( which I can not seem to get to)
    so I will uninstall the plugin from my cpanel.
    I am not feeling the love for this 2.7 right now. I have many older clients who I train to blog and this is confusing and I am not looking forward to redoing all my training videos either.

  26. mores
    Member
    Posted 5 years ago #

    I like the new backend look. Sleek, efficient, modern and functional.

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