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Wiki-like blog? (12 posts)

  1. tdarugar
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Hello,

    I realize this is a bit off-topic, but I wanted to see if I can get some feedback on this.

    I've very recently started blogging. Maybe I'm stuck in old world thinking, but I'd like posts to be a bit more permanent, a bit more independent. For each post, I’d like a permanent page with a meaningful, static-looking URL, as you have with a Wiki. That way I can go back and build on a topic I had approached before. Also, each post can get indexed by search engines.

    I want the ease of use, the chronological presentation, the comment threading, and overall prettiness of a blog, but with the information publishing capabilities of a Wiki. I guess the main aspect of a Wiki is the communal editing capability; that's not what I'm looking for in this context.

    Basically, I want a blog front-end for a Wiki. WordPress is so pretty. Is that unreasonable?

    This topic at my brand new blog:
    http://www.parand.com/say

  2. bpolhemus
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I think what you're looking for is simply "permalinks." Look it up in the Codex. (N.B. I would like to "get into" organizing my blog using human-readable permalinks but just haven't gotten around to figuring out how to "migrate.")

  3. tdarugar
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I think you're right, permalinks do indeed look like what I need. Much thanks. I'll give mod_rewrite and permalinks a try and see how it goes. In theory, I could build my whole site (not just the blog) with WordPress, which would be nice.

  4. angsuman
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Forget mod_rewrite! I have mod_rewrite enabled on my server, yet couldn't get it working as desired after quite some effort. So I just opted for having index.php as part of the url. Still pretty, still with a wiki like structure as you need, however without the accompanying hassles. It works everytime. For example my perma-links look like:
    http://blog.taragana.com/index.php/archive/javaone-proposal-not-rejected/
    Note the index.php in the middle!

  5. silkyed
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    You can use Microwiki from:
    http://www.asymptomatic.net/wp-hacks
    http://www.asymptomatic.net/_wiki/MicroWiki

    I think this is really what you want. As I can see, you're using a modified version of Kubrick which is very suitable for this plug-in.

    Wish you luck!

  6. jadler
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Another option is to use a blog-capable wiki, such as Oddmuse. Very good wiki, works as blog too but less polished appearance than WP et al.

  7. Biko2
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Maybe WordPress isn't the right app for you. Have you checked out Drupal? They pitch it as the Wiki for Bloggers.

    http://drupal.org/

  8. Biko2
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    oops, here's a slight correction on my last post. Drupal is a CMS system. James Seng has used Drupal as a base to create his own project call "Drupal for Bloggers." You can find his code here:
    http://james.seng.sg/wiki/wiki.cgi?Drupal_For_Bloggers

  9. tdarugar
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well, I played with mod_rewrite for a good couple of hours, but it simply refuses to work (loads up fine, seems to find .htaccess, does not rewrite anything). I share my host with a couple of friends, so I haven't done major surgery yet, but I may get it to.

    Regarding the index.php as part of the url option, I was going to try that, but the rewrite url's are prettier. Do you know if there are any search engine implications with the index.php option? That is, I seem to recall something about search engines not indexing dynamic pages well. Is there any truth to that, and if so, does the index.php case count as a dynamic page as far as search engines (Yahoo, Google) know, or does it treat it as static?

    Thanks for the pointers to the other options; they seem to be very related to what I'm looking for, so I'll take a look and report back what I find. On the other hand, if mod_rewrite starts working, I'm almost where I want to be.

    I'm running into a non-technical issue though; as a matter of style, it seems most blog entries are short and not necessarily very subtantive. I like to hear myself talk, so my posts tend to be longer, and possibly not blog-like. I have to figure out what belongs in a blog and what doesn't. On the other hand, my goal of having my blog software/wiki act as the content management/publishing platform for my whole site seems to be coming together.

  10. http://the.taoofmac.com/space/ runs off of PHPWiki and a converted version of Kubrick.

  11. angsuman
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    AFAIK major search engines are fine nowadays with dynamic pages. In any case having an index.php in the url path doesn't count as dynamic page. Having a question mark with a query string afterwards does as is in the default install. Even with the query string (dynamic url) mode I find that search engines these days are comfortable in indexing the pages and ranking them appropriately.

    I have a post about using permalinks without mod_rewrite (with index.php embedded) on WordPress 1.5.

  12. tdarugar
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I just tried the permalinks with index.php embedded, and it worked right away. If search engines are happy with that, then I can guess live with this slightly less beautiful URLs. Much thanks.

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