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Why I Hate Gmail (36 posts)

  1. MaxT
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    totally offtopic... but still, this is the right subforum to post about it, and I have to post about it cause I just can't shut up about it any longer...
    http://www.maxt.dk/archives/2004/06/20/why-i-hate-gmail/

  2. Root
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    The *illusion of exclusivity* can only last so long. Very neat piece of marketting though. And a very clever post by MaxT ;)

  3. Iki
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    It's not the illusion of exclusivity that makes me not want to go within a hundred miles of a gmail account - it's that they are pre-reading my email and targeting advertisements based on what they see. It's a dangerous precedent.
    Google's Gmail - Spook Heaven?
    Google email is evil - Privacy Advocates
    Add the fact that they keep your emails even after you delete them and it's something that I want nothing to do with - either using an account myself or even emailing someone who has one. No thanks.

  4. flakkito
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    MaxT, thankx for sharing this. This is pretty major in my opinion.

  5. MaxT
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Thanks for the comments, Root :) And rest of you. Glad to see many people have same opinion as me :)
    Regards

  6. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Old and deleted e-mail has no value to Google. They want to display ads next to e-mails that is current and being read. What they are actually saying is that they cannot guarantee that you e-mail will be totally irreversibly immidiately deleted, because that is a very difficult thing to do. Think, even if you delete a file on your HD - you haven't actually deleted it ... the 0s and 1s are still on your HD until they are overwritten and can be easily retrieved in the mean time.
    Further more, Hotmail/Y!/your ISP etc. scan your every e-mail ... to see whether it's spam or not. Spam filters look for keywords, like viagra etc. thats why spammers spell is as v1agra now, so it can get past stupid spam filters.
    Chill.

  7. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    finally someone with some senses...

  8. BAKSHI
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    The reason I hate gMail is that it has been down for 3 days! I can't be without my email for that long! It's because these corporations depend on Akamai to do everything for them, and when it goes down, several huge websites go down with Akamai too.

  9. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    working here mate. though some other friends have had problems today... its still preview so u cant really blame them at the moment.

  10. nolageek
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    No one is "pre-reading" your e-mail no more than google "pre-reads" your search results. It's all done by machine on the fly. All these people that freak at the thought of google ads in their e-mail, obviously think that the people at google really give a **** about what their typing.

  11. BAKSHI
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    ya, your right. when i got my gmail i immediatly changed all my community profiles to send emails to my gmail, my website also to my gmail, the only thing i haven't changed is my email in my wordpress support profile

  12. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    i am using gmail for email chatting :) conversations taken literally.
    for forums and blogs, i prefer fastmail. atleast i dont have to keep a browser window open for webmail...

  13. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Gmail is working fine here. I did experience some downtime when Akamai went down ... but that's hardly Google's fault and it was down only for a few hours. Plus, everyone should keep in mind that Gmail is still B-E-T-A ... when 1.2 was in beta how many people were here complaining about things not working? I've had similar if not higher number of outages when using Hotmail/Y! ... in fact when I went to check out the new and improved Y! (I have an a/c that I use exclusively for Y! messenger) it was completely screwed up. And the ads were still huge, animated and/or flash based. Further more, advertised services only available in the US, despite that fact that my profile states that I live in the mountains of Afghanistan.
    It used to be fashionable to talk about getting a Gmail account, now the trend reversed and it is increasingly popular to b*tch about it and say that there are other 1Gb e-mail services out there (SpyMac, AventureMail (2Gb) etc.) ... Have you tried those services? I suggest you sign up for SpyMac and try to use it ... downtime, slow, bloated etc. 1Gb is really NOT what Gmail is actually about.
    Since obtaining an account I consolidated all of my trivial e-mail on Gmail and even imported my back archives, so that I have a searchable database at hand anywhere with internet access. That already proved very useful. Business related e-mail is PGP encrypted and for really private stuff I use temporary totally anonymous accounts at Hushmail.
    Hate it or love it, but Google stirred up the stagnating webmail market and forced some players to get of their ass. Somehow I doubt that Y! users would be enjoying their 100Mb mailboxes if it weren't for Gmail (again they rushed this 'upgrade' and that showed). Hopefully, Hotmail and other services will follow suit.
    A short collection of thoughs about Gmail's features and what makes it different from other services without mentioning 1Gb even once.
    Also, I am running a quick contest for anyone who does not have an account and would like one.

  14. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    if u wanna check speed, http://www.rediff.com gives pretty darn good speeds :)
    and its indian :p

  15. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Rediff has been around for a while, but have horrible uptime stats and quite a few people block the domain because a little too much spam originates from there (this may have changed; I don't know). Ah, I see they finally got a ToS ... again 1Gb is not the holy grail.

  16. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    yeah i have heard abt blocking... :)
    i am just gonna use them for spam mails :D

  17. BAKSHI
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I got a rediff email address too. It's pretty good, no ads.

  18. eltintero
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I really loooooove GMail. It is really fast, easy, a lot of memory (1 gb) and a lot of other nice features. I'ts the same for me if a machine reads my email or not... Those civil-rights&tree-huggers&animal-rights, etc etc can stay with Hotmail and its 2 MB of space... However, I am with google, nearly unlimited space, and a looot of nice features. I only hope that it will soon be PDA-friendly.
    Cheers

  19. randybrown
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    >>Those civil-rights&tree-huggers&animal-rights, etc etc can stay with Hotmail and its 2 MB of space... <<
    Geesh....

  20. sakamuyo
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I think it's really silly to "hate" gmail. If you don't want to use the service, then don't use it. It's as simple as that. No need to gripe about it.

  21. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I guess I don't understand the fuss. I like my email being where my webhosting is.

  22. Root
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Well I guess anyone who does not think our email is being read now is just plain daft. As to spooks, why do browsers have image logos loading off the vendors server? We are all being tracked anyway. It is basic net work security to understand that. If we are doing it - someone is seeing it. And if you have obscure personal interests it is best not to do them on the net at all.

  23. uberwald
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I think gmail has one of the best user interfaces of any email program I've ever tried. Actually I think it's the best, but I'm leaving myself open in case I remember one that I tried a long time ago and forgot about. The whole reading your mail crap is ridiculous, because there just isn't enough time in the day to read everyone's email, even if you wanted to sift through a million emails about stomach troubles, god's plan for kittens, and OMGWTFBBQ. If you want no one to be able to read your email, encrypt it, and make sure the receiver knows how to keep it secure once it's received. If you want to make extra sure, don't send it.

  24. danithew
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I like my gmail account. I am with those who are fed up with Hotmail's measly 2MB of space and the constant advisories Hotmail gives that the account is near to being full. Up to now at least, I just think Google.com is a great company. I like their independent approach to the things they do and the influence they are having on others in the search-engine/email industries.

  25. MaxT
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    @sakamyuo :
    I'm a blogger and have a right to post at my *own personal* site whatever I *personally* think is right or wrong, good or bad... I don't tell you that posts at your site does suck and nobody need them, do I? Good :)
    Basic line : If I think that that subject deserved my post, it's enough to "gripe" about it...

  26. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    If anyone is still interested (after all Gmail is EVIL, har har) I am giving away two invitations ... just leave a comment with your name/e-mail address on this entry.

  27. carthik
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    The reason I hate Gmail is because this thread hogs the support forum front page. Somebody kill this thread, please, and while at it, kill gmail too :)

  28. MaxT
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    LOL 2fargon :D

  29. sakamuyo
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    MaxT: Yes, you absolutely can gripe about anything you want. Let me point out three things, though:
    1) You also posted it here. I don't read your blog, but I do read these forums. Don't post an opinion in a public place if you don't want to hear what others think about your opinion.
    2) You have the right to your opinion. I have the right to my opinion that "hating" an email service is silly.
    3) My original comment stands. Hating an email service is silly. It's just an email service. It's a good product for some and not a good product for others.

  30. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

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