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why going backwards? (16 posts)

  1. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    updated from 2.2 version to 3.5 and my entire blog is out the window... WHY?
    Because in the 3.5 version, the "Post" page gets automatically assigned to a category and if you don't create a "Dupe" of your Post-page under "Pages" then WP would throw you a "Not Found"

    Weird and strange and - incomprehensible why WP 3.5 is now going down this backward-path.

    It's like having a car in your garage, but unless you buy another car, exactly the same and place it into your neighbors garage, you wouldn't be able to drive out your own car. Uhm... yeah, huh... mhh, makes complete NON-sense.

    PS:- What's the story about the "check-box" next to the category? Why having it if you can't "UN"check it? Should this be considered another extra free WP fun?

    I tend to start believing, the latest WP version has too much fun built in, it's no longer fun! ;-)

  2. cubecolour
    ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Restore your backups and start the upgrade again 2.2 to 3.5 is far too much of a jump in one go.

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Upgrading_WordPress_Extended#Detailed_Upgrade_Instructions_for_1.5.x.2C_and_versions_2.0_-_2.6.5.2C_to_3.5

  3. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Well, that might be, but
    - why would WP then offer an update process in the first place, if it can't handle it ???
    - why not say "your current version can't be updated?
    - how should "I" know if the WP developers don't know themselves?
    - Guess it's all to do with having fun working with WP?
    - I could think of much better fun and fun that would make sense, at least!
    ;-)

  4. lolcaption
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    The easiest way around this problem is to keep your site updated. It's much easier to backtrack/troubleshoot issues.

    You will have a similar problem with most systems if you try to do a massive upgrade from one major release to another. WordPress is one of the better ones in this regard.

  5. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Well, I did a complete new, totally clean install of a 3.4.2 version and it's still the same!

    May I humbly ask again;
    1. Editing the "Post-Page", I checked "Stick this post to the front page".
    2. However, the checkbox "thisisacategory" is checked and thus I uncheck it and save, WP would fall back to some kinda default and "check" the box again, despite me wanting it unchecked.
    3. What's the purpose of a "checkbox" here if it cannot be unchecked?
    4. Why allowing to stick a page to the front if WP doesn't take it to the front and places it under a category?
    5. Why do I need to create the same "POST"-page under "pages" again, so it would show as the front page?

    This is so SO confusing and totally without any sense that my 5 year old son is shaking his head and asks me ... "dad, do you need to work with this WP thing?"

    His question makes the only sense to me! ;-)

    - - -

    So, do I really need to go back to a 2+ version to get the "FRONT PAGE" showing as the "FRONT PAGE" or do I need to wait for the version 3.5.376 update?

  6. cubecolour
    ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ
    Posted 1 year ago #

    If you uncheck the default category and select an a different category the default category will remain unchecked, however each post must belong to at least one category. http://codex.wordpress.org/Posts_Categories_Screen

  7. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I have nothing against a post having to belong to at least one category.
    I have something against the fact, that the POST PAGE needs to be doubled by a "Pages" page, only for the reason so the Post-Page will be shown as the "Post Page" at the Post Front! There is absolutely no logic behind this behavior!

    That again - apart from not making any sense - only creates duplicated content and duplicated content, as everyone knows (even me) will get Google to punish you!

  8. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Google to punish you!

    That's simply not true. There's a lot of rubbish written about the duplicate content penalty implying that it includes things like tag or category page listings. Instead, read what Google actually do say about duplicate content.

  9. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, so the Google punch in not true, but -
    why does WP work this way anyway? Why can't WP simply take the Post Page and stick it to the front, (as it pretends to do so by allowing to check the relevant check-box), unless you create the same page again under the "Pages" section ...? And besides, then what's the Post Page suppose to be there for?

    That just doesn't sink in with me, sorry!

  10. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Why can't WP simply take the Post Page and stick it to the front

    It does - if you want your front page to be a Posts page (it's actually the default setting on a new vanilla install). Just select "Your latest posts" in Settings -> Reading.

  11. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    ?
    "Just select "Your latest posts" in Settings -> Reading."
    I don't have that option at all (version 3.4.2)
    ?

    I have these 4 only;
    Blog pages show at most
    Syndication feeds show the most recent
    For each article in a feed, show
    Encoding for pages and feeds

    So it would really be good if WP would allow for some "standard" here, and that standard would "work"! Hm?

    There is nothing except what I mentioned already, but that doesn't work!
    ??

  12. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I don't have that option at all (version 3.4.2)

    It has been a standard part of WordPress since before version 3.0. I can only guess that there's an issue in your particular install. There's certainly no standard issue within WordPress itself. Have you tried:

    - deactivating all plugins to see if this resolves the problem. If this works, re-activate the plugins one by one until you find the problematic plugin(s).

    - switching to the default theme to rule out any theme-specific problems.

    - resetting the plugins folder by FTP or PhpMyAdmin. Sometimes, an apparently inactive plugin can still cause problems.

    - re-uploading all files & folders - except the wp-content folder - from a fresh download of WordPress 3.4.2. Make sure that you delete the old copies of files & folder before uploading the new ones.

    And can I ask why you haven't upgraded WordPress yet?

  13. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    All done, several times

    You may ask, yes, ;-) - But, I had the latest version before, same problem, now I reinstalled a complete new version of the archived 3.4.2, just to see if it's still the same and yes, it is the same.

    I did NOT have any problem with my old 2 version! (explained at the very beginning of this post)

    Oh, besides all that, I have only ONE plugin installed and that was an SEO plugin... but all the steps you described, I did about 3 times now. I even set up a complete new database, just to make sure there was no caching issue, etc., ...

    So yes, I run totally dry on any ideas by now ;-)

  14. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    This is definitely an issue that is specific to your site/install. Are you the only administrator on the site? Did you install WordPress? If so - was it a manual install?

  15. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    using cPanel, at first
    manually the second and third time.
    I installed hundreds of different software, no problem, so I want to guess and play a little arrogant to say, installing WP shouldn't be such a different science... ;-)

  16. raffletipuffle
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OH, I should add, when I manually installed it, I unpacked the WP ZIP folder on the server (I have full root access on my VPS servers)

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