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which is the best permalink structure for google indexing? (33 posts)

  1. mbejane
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    hi folks. im from argentina and just got running argentinoz.com but i cannot realize whichs is the best way to store the permalinks so that google can idex them!
    i hope someone can response, im kinda new!

    i thinks is xxxxx.com/worpress-rocks.html
    but what d you think,
    i couldnt get good information about this anywhere

    thanks for you all!
    juan

  2. kickass
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    /%category%/%postname%

    or some variant thereof.

    dates in the permalinks are useless for google.

  3. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 8 years ago #

    I advise: '/%category%/%postname%.html'.
    I think .html in the end is a little bit better than without it for google.

  4. xinfo
    Member
    Posted 8 years ago #

    well i found from tom blog

    /%postname%/
    is really good for search engine but i have some problem with wp

  5. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    the .html extention means NOTHING for SEO, and google has been indexing wp sites extremely well with ANY of the permalinks options.

    however, for your users (who you should be thinking of as well) the layout that kickass gave is most memorable and easiest to navigate.

    you can't use just postname...

  6. xinfo
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    @ladydelaluna

    I agree with you but i request you to check this http://www.tomrafteryit.net/boost-search-engine-optimisation-seo-using-permalinks/ tom blog and post here your option (i am not agains't you )

    Personally from past 1 weak working on tag i found

    /%category%/%postname%/ tag doesn’t work(domain.com/tag/tagname)

    /%Postname.html tag work great(domain.com/tag/tagname)

  7. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    xinfo - i've heard it all before. however with my own eyes i've seen sites rank in the top 5 for sites using the regular links - p=123 and i've seen sites rank in the top 5 for using the "pretty" permalinks.

    i use the "pretty" ones myself - because i prefer having some sort of explanation in the URL for my visitors' sakes...

    wp is a dynamically, database driven piece of software. what people aren't understanding is that it's similar when you go to (for example) http://www.wordpress.org, you're viewing http://www.wordpress.org/index.php (or whatever the extention is) it's the same with wordpress built websites. you're actually viewing http: //www.yoursite.com/category/title/index.php but the browser just doesn't show it to you.

    i've been in the field of SEO for many years now - trust me, it no longer makes a difference, as long as you're not using long dynamic queries (session IDs) that CHANGE every time you visit a page, your site will be fine. there's a difference - not every URL with a question mark is bad anymore.

  8. xinfo
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    ohh now i under stand even i seen many website with default url with good rank , then why people back of permalink structure i dont under stand

  9. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    people back it because it looks better to the site visitors, and because some search engines (though not nearly all of them, and certainly not the "big guys") do look at URLs for keywords. when someone hovers a link, or even has a page in their browser, they know (pretty much) what the topic is by looking at the URL. some people are wary of "ugly" URLs...

    i've seen people adding the .html extention to their wordpress sites, and for the life of me i can't understand why, other than if their old site used .html pages, and they're creating pages with the same name (example.html) and don't want to lose their current PageRank (which also, in my opinion, is a joke) or wind up with 404 errors. other than that, there's absolutely no reason to use .html as an extention... and even that's kind of silly when you can use 301 redirects in the .htaccess file to prevent 404s from happening.

  10. Samuel Wood (Otto)
    Tech Ninja
    Posted 7 years ago #

    If you use Google Sitemaps, then it likely doesn't matter at all, since you're explicitly telling Google what your URLs are. I find it highly unlikely that they consider the URLs in any sort of search results. They're more interested in the content.

  11. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    "I find it highly unlikely that they consider the URLs in any sort of search results."

    You're absolutely right, Otto - Google doesn't give a crap, neither does Yahoo or MSN to be honest. Some of the smaller search engines might but they're not the ones people are usually most concerned with.

    I'd suggest using the Google sitemaps AND creating an actual sitemap page on the site. Doing so would aid not only the search engines, but your site visitors as well. You wouldn't believe the number of people who would rather use a sitemap to find what they want than a nav bar!

  12. xinfo
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    well if you gonna use Tag /%category%/%postname%/ tag will not function properly .

    you can try other format which is avaiable in your admin panel or use /%postname%.html tag will work fine

  13. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    /%category%/%postname%/ works perfectly on over 40 sites I manage... not sure what you mean there.

    And using the .html extention is making it force to that unnaturally. these are PHP driven pages, not HTML driven.

  14. SwarooHegde
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Hello,

    Check out mine: http://www.swaroophegde.com

    permalink structure is ofcourse: /%postname%/

    I am also using the the sitemaps plugin

    Problem:

    Google lists only my index page.

    Yahoo lists my categories properly but not my posts, i.e. http://www.swaroophegde.com/category/general but not swaroophegde.com/epsonc45

    Any idea where I am going wrong?

    Thanks,
    Swap

  15. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    using only /%postname%/ is never advised - for a multitude of reasons, one being that your posts aren't properly categorized in the URL that way.

    at BARE MINIMUM, use /%category%/%postname%/ - that's what I use on every single site I create.

    that said, google's indexing TONS of pages for your site - and many of them have all sorts of different URLs, like .../2006/04/35/speed/ - all this tells me is that google hasn't caught up with you yet, and it's a good time to fix your permalinks properly and then leave them alone. every time you change you permalinks, you lose your ranking... it'd be like changing a page from pizza.html to carrots.html with the same content on it.

    just set it, and forget it... ;)

  16. krugern
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I'm using /%year%/%monthnum%/%postname%.

    works fine?

  17. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    krugern, that's perfectly okay too :)

    fact is, they're all okay. the search engines really don't pay much attention to URLs, and as long as you don't have session ids in your URL, you won't really run into a problem.

    just don't keep changing them - everytime you do, you lose rankings for the page (because you're changing the URL)

  18. krugern
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    what I thought aswell. my site is well indexed, and I'm not changing my url :)

  19. SwarooHegde
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I changed to /%postname%/ when I read an article which said that it's the best way to gain google rank. I understand that google will take time to go through the change again but I ask for one last confirmation.

    Thanks!

  20. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    "when I read an article which said that it's the best way to gain google rank"

    That article lied to you, dear... again, I've been in this business for years - your URL means very little anymore, ESPECIALLY to google. I've seen sites with "p=4" rank better than those with a postname or "page.html"

    What counts in ALL the search engines the most, is your content, and how popular your site is (traffic, relevant links to your site, etc.)

    There's reason for it - and why you don't see many sites using keywords and hyphens in their domains anymore - because that was a "trick" used by spammers at one point. So google stopped counting URLs completely.

    That said, I don't think that "postname" is the wrong way to go - because it helps your VISITORS know better where they are, and it just looks prettier. However using /%category%/%postname%/ is the best way to go - over using just postname. It allows for URL shortening by the user (when they want to see all the posts in a category, they simply delete the part after the last slash - yes there are LOTS of people who do that!), and further clarifies where your content goes to the search engines. There are also documented problems with just using postname and nothing else:

    "Note on using only %postname%
    If you use postname as the only element in your permalinks to create a structure such as myblog.com/post-title, the rewrite rules may make it impossible to access pages such as your stylesheet (which has a similar format) or the wp-admin folder. It's best to include some numeric data (e.g. the post ID or date) in the permalink to prevent this from happening. Additionally, WordPress v1.2.x requires the use of a date structure in order for some features, such as the calendar, to function properly. /%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/ is always a good start."

    found that here: http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Permalinks#Structure_Tags

  21. SwarooHegde
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    thanks ma'm.. I just changed it to category/postname.

    Oh I also just noticed the typo in my username here. It's the first time I got my own name wrong ;)

  22. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    lol we all make mistakes! ;)
    glad you got the permalinks sorted out... :)

  23. rirath
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Great topic. What do you think of the structure: /%category%/%postname%-%year%-%monthnum%-%day%/

    While it makes a long url, it also keeps things unique without all them pesky /'s.

  24. sevendotro
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    If you have a good structure useing key words for categoryes and good key fords for titles I belive that '/%category%/%postname% it's better

    It's all about key words :) It's all about how you use it :) , I think :D

  25. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    "What do you think of the structure: /%category%/%postname%-%year%-%monthnum%-%day%/"

    I happen to really dislike URLs with that many numbers... and when you're using the postname, you'll never have the same URL twice... what will happen is this:

    www.site.com/category/name-of-the-post for the first, let's say you name a second post, in the same category, the same thing, WP will automatically make it:

    www.site.com/category/name-of-the-post-2

    year, month, and day is a waste of valuable URL space if you ask me.

    oh, and sevendotro - keywords mean nothing in URLs when it comes to search engines. so drop that idea now... they ONLY benefit to keywords in URLs is that it tells the reader what your page is about (if you're being honest anyway). that said - i do think that /%category%/%postname%/ is best - it's short, and descriptive for the site visitors... but that's about it for reasoning.

  26. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Of course, there are a lot of us out here who simply blow off the whole SE madness and idiocy, and use /%year%/%monthnum%/%day%/%postname%/ because it makes sense to us and to our readers.

  27. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    vkaryl - that's my point.
    if it makes sense to you and your readers - that's what you go with. i don't think that dates are more "sensible" than categories, but that's MHO. i suppose though it makes sense for certain types of sites and blogs... just not for the majority of them that i work with is all. :)

    the entire idea that the URL/permalinks has a damn thing to do with SEs is out of order in this day and age. at one point, years ago, it did count. until the spammers took advantage of it and all the SEs stopped giving it any weight whatsoever.

  28. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Oh, wasn't pointing that at you specifically or even generally. Just at the whole "live and die by the SE" attitudes lately.

    Anyone who's figuring on making millions gaming the SEs deserves exactly what happens to himmer - and that's not going to be making millions.

  29. ladydelaluna
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    lol you said it girl! that's the bottom line all the way.

  30. pizdin_dim
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    "There's reason for it - and why you don't see many sites using keywords and hyphens in their domains anymore - because that was a "trick" used by spammers at one point. So google stopped counting URLs completely."

    I think these people agree with you -- they look like they're using WP and their permalinks simply use this:

    http://lutrov.com/blog/130/

    Of course, I don't know how many visitors they get from search engines either but their permalink structure seems to suggest they're primarily relying on the content to attract the search engines.

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