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  1. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I'm in the process of installing and configuring my blog that will be one feature of my established website. I have downloaded the WordPress software, but I'm not sure what username and password I should cite for my WP account. Should these be the same as the ones that I have for my website or should they be different ones? I don't want to have to go through several check points in order to access my administration data for WP when I'm working on various pages for my site. I would like to keep this process as simple as possible without jeopardizing my control of these files. I haven't seen this exact matter addressed in any of the guides that I have read on installing WP or the FAQ on this forum. Any suggestions that anyone can give me regarding this issue will be appreciated. Thanks.

  2. cubecolour
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    Posted 4 years ago #

    The username & password specified in the wp-config, is used by WordPress to access the MySQL database and you never have to input those manually once WordPress is set up.

    Once you have set up WordPress, you will initially log in as admin with a system-generated password which is emailed to you. It is advisable to then set up a second administrator account with a strong password, log off and then log in with that account and delete the default 'admin'.

    Choose something you will remember for both username and password & the password shows as 'strong' when you initially set it. It does not need to match any other username / password on your system.

  3. Pius Ekhaeyemhe
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    To add to what numeeja said, you have the choice to change your username during the installation process from "admin" to something you like, so you don't have to create a new user after the installation.

    [Sig Moderated - See forum Rules] (JC)

  4. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi numeeja,
    I'm trying to follow the instructions for Installing WordPress from the Codex document. I'm looking at those for "Using phpMyAdmin". I get confused trying to figure out what to do next.

    I understand that I need to create a wordpress database, but I don't understand exactly how to do this. Apparently the name for this database could be "wordpress" or "blog". Then, according to instruction 2.1, I need to "add a new user". Then, according to instruction 2.2, I need to "choose a username for WordPress", like "wordpress". Then, according to instruction 2.3, I need to "choose a difficult-to-guess password".

    No where in these instructions does it say anything about getting any username and password being "specified" for me in "wp-config". This process may be simple to anyone who has gone through it, but it is like a maze to me. I'll do my best to follow the printed instructions that I have from Codex. Maybe I'll be able to get WordPress set up. Thanks.

  5. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi,
    I went to my cPanel for my website and made an effort to follow the instructions for "Using cPanel" to create a WP database. I apparently have a database with a name, a user name, a password, and "All Privileges". The "names" each include the basic user name for access to my website. I don't know if these will be retained or replaced in subsequent steps as I set up my blog. This is a primary matter of confusion for me. There is a "Connection Strings" cited, but I'm not sure what to do with it. I guess that my database blog is still not completely set up and installed. I see some instructions numbered step 3, step 4, and step 5 in the Codex, but I'm still confused about this process. I don't want to get a blog installed on my website that isn't ready to be displayed to my viewers and managed by me. And I still don't understand how many different database accounts I need to set up with user names and passwords in this process. I hope that someone can lead me through this "maze" of instructions. Right now I don't know what to do next.

  6. cubecolour
    ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ
    Posted 4 years ago #


  7. cubecolour
    ɹoʇɐɹǝpoɯ
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Often the MySQL database name & the username will be the same and you'll have a password. The hostname is often 'localhost' unless you have been advised differently

  8. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I'm still trying to figure out how to set up my blog and get it installed into my website. I still don't exactly understand the citation of user names and passwords in the various steps for setting up my database.

    Also, Step 4 in the Codex for Installing WordPress instructs me to "Upload the Files". What exact files are these? These instructions tell me to "upload all the contents of the wordpress directory (but not the directory itself) in the root directory of your web site". What are these "contents"? How will they be different from the "directory itself"?

    And I don't exactly understand the difference that is created by installing my WP database in the "root directory" of my website or in a "subdirectory". I don't want all of the settings for my blog to control the data in other non-blog features, so does this mean that all of its "files" should be uploaded into a "subdirectory" of the basic "root directory" for my website? Can I create the necessary "subdirectory", or how does this get created on my host's server?

    I need a lot of help in getting through all of these instructions. I'm sorry to make a "5-minute install" so difficult. I appreciate any help that anyone can give me. Thanks.

  9. Joni
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    If you are not familiar with using an FTP client to upload files to your server, if you are unable to distinguish between your web host's dashboard and WordPress's, if you cannot follow instructions on how to set up a database, and a user, assign a password to that user, and then assign that user to the database, you might want to visit the WP Pro forums and pay someone a small amount of money to set it up for you. I can tell you that if you have an existing site, you shouldn't be dumping WP into the site root anyway.

    The directory is a folder on your site. (On your hard drive, it's called a folder.) The contents are the contents of those folders/directories, be they files or other subfolders/subdirectories.

  10. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I've done some more study and learned several things to answer some of my own questions. I've learned again that "directories" are "folders". I've learned that I can create a new "folder" called "blog" on my host's remote server. I've learned that I will be able to easily upload all of the folders and files in my initial "wordpress" folder to the new "blog" folder on the remote server. I assume that the files in this folder will manage my blog and its features while the files in my other folders will manage the other pages of my site.

    I recognize that there is an "index.php" file in wordpress, and I also have an "index.php" file for my website. How will these two files be distinguished from each other? Will their different locations keep them from any conflicting operations?

    I think that I'm making some progress in learning how to get my WP database blog set up and installed. The instructions in Codex are excellent. It just takes me awhile to understand the details. Thanks.

  11. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    jonimueller,
    You indicate this: "I can tell you that if you have an existing site, you shouldn't be dumping WP into the site root anyway." This really confuses me. I want my database blog to be a part of my website and not a completely separated medium. I don't want my website to be a part of my blog. I assume that such a distinct arrangement is possible.

    I plan to install my database in a subdirectory of the "root" directory or folder on my host's remote server. Isn't that where it should go in order to make it distinct from the other contents on my site?

    Please clarify the point of your statement in light of the above question. Thanks for your help.

  12. henkholland
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Giving_WordPress_Its_Own_Directory

    My site is in the directory WordPress and the index.php is in the root (highest level of httpdocs).
    But I also have a test site in a directory wptest and its index.php is in the same directory. I open that site through: www.mydomain.com/wptest

  13. leuilletten
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi WordPress Experts
    I love the idea of using WordPress but am having extreme difficulty in uploading the wordpress folder from my desktop to my ftp hosting site. Not to mention then using the Twicet package on it. Having just read the previous posts I'm now worried that I shouldn't be doing what I am - putting the wordpress folder in the same place as my existing website folder/files etc, etc.

    Can anyone point me in the right direction? Pro help would be great as I'm completely lost. The enticing WordPress phrase 'A 5 minute install' is a touch overstated for a novice like me. Time is money and I've spent too much on this. Paying someone to do it for me will I'm sure be more cost effective. Any offers?

  14. bluestocking
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    When u people r facing too much problems what would i do(since i m totally a technology illiterate)?
    I m pondering over to buy a bluehost hosting service which is supportive to wordpress. But what would i do if i face problems in installing wordpress?

  15. MichaelH
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    bluestocking...please quit posting with bold text (<strong> </strong>).

    If you have problems installing, detail those problems here in a new topic.

    Also review Installing WordPress.

  16. cubecolour
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    Posted 4 years ago #

    leuilletten, I notice in your profile that like me you're in the UK. If you're still having issues installing please contact me via the site in my profile. I'd be pleased to help.

  17. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi everyone,
    I'm back and still trying to install my WP blog. I finally uploaded all of the WP files into a subdirectory, blog, in the root directory for my site. I then selected the install.php file from the wp-admin folder and requested the program to open it, but it didn't get opened. I even when to the run operation on my start menu and made the same request from there, but it hasn't been run or installed. I'm not particularly interested in going through all of these procedures again. What should I do now to get this program installed into my site? I don't get any error message or instructions from WP. This installation is really a difficult process! Any help would be appreciated.

  18. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi,
    Apparently after I entered some information into a WordPress form that was displayed, the database blog was installed. I just cited my initial username as "admin" and the initial name for my blog, so my blog was installed with these citations. I didn't realize that these would be the final citations for my blog. I don't want to be cited as "admin" on my blog, but apparently this can't be changed at this point. I tried to reply to the confirmation message that I got from WP indicating that my WP blog had been set up, but my message couldn't be delivered. I've been working for about a week to get this blog set up, and now it is still not right. What can I do to correct this citation for my username? How can I contact the WordPress Team? I hate to have to start all over in this process.

  19. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I didn't realize that these would be the final citations for my blog. I don't want to be cited as "admin" on my blog, but apparently this can't be changed at this point

    They're not, you don't have to be. and you can.
    "Admin" can be changed from directly in the database, although probably not necessary. You can secure that account with a decent password and give yourself a new "admin " account with any name you desire to work from daily if you wish. The message you receive on install - not in an email- includes a generated default password for initial admin login, if that is an issue. You can then change it in your admin profile after logging in for the first time.

    Also... You also don't have to be "cited" as admin on your blog with the default account if you choose to use it. You can go to your admin profile and enter any nickname you wish to identify yourself on your posts.

    http://codex.wordpress.org/images/e/eb/profile.png

  20. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi Clayton,
    Apparently from what you say above, I can change my database blog account. But I don't know exactly how to do this!!!

    Where do I go to make the appropriate changes--the control panel for my website or somewhere else? Should I just install a new database account and delete this mis-identified initial one? If so, where do I go to install another new account? I don't where to go to get to my admin profile with WP. How do I get to it? I don't just want to use a "nickname" on this account. I don't want this database account set up with "admin" as the user name. Please give me some precise instructions for correcting this. I trust that I won't have go though all of the steps again to install a WP database on my site. I just want to get one correctly identified. I appreciate your help with this. Thanks.

  21. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I trust that I won't have go though all of the steps again to install a WP database on my site.

    I can not tell you what you will or will not have to re-do, because I am not factually aware of what you have or have not done. I can tell you where the name "admin" is stored in your database. If you do not know how to tackle this, I suggest you take some time and build some confidence before you do. But, if you are just getting things going, perhaps now is the perfect time to try your hand at it.

    Installing wordpress takes just about 5 minutes. Start to finish. Reinstalling (including deleting and re-populating a database) takes about 10. The install directions are pretty straight forward. If you really feel compelled to change the default name "admin", use your database administration tools in your hosts control panel to enter your database.

    1. Navigate to your WordPress database and select the wp_users table and then click the browse icon.
    2. Locate the username ‘admin’ and click the edit icon.
    3. Under the user_login column, change ‘admin’ to any other preferred WordPress administrative login name of your choice and then click go."

    I believe the above steps might assume that you use phpMyAdmin. Do this at your own risk. reference: http://www.aboutonlinetips.com/changing-default-wordpress-user-name/

    Or you might try doing it with a plugin from the plugin repository, although I have never tried the plugin method.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wpvn-username-changer/

  22. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hi Clayton,
    I have one WP database blog installed in a subdirectory of the root for my website. Its name is bobs75_blog. The user name for the database account is bobs75_admin. It is this "admin" name that I want to change.

    I went to the control panel for my website, and this database is listed with the MySQL account. I don't see any citation for "wp_users table" anywhere in these settings for the account. I can delete this account or add another user or I think that I might be able to add another account from this panel, but I'm not sure about that. Are the WP files all set up so that I could just add a new account with a new user name and password and delete this other account? You say it takes "about 5 minutes" to install wordpress. It has taken me about a week, and one of the biggest difficulties is just trying to figure out the different usernames and passwords need to be cited for different steps in the process. That is why I don't want to have to go through all that process again.

    Since I can't find the wp_users table on my control panel, I can't follow the other steps of your instructions. I'm not sure that the steps that you cite are related to the options that I have on my control panel. So I'm still not sure what to do. I'm sorry to trouble you with my confusion, but I appreciate your help.

  23. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Clayton,
    I did find the wp_users table, and I was able to make changes to the user_login, the user_nicename, and the user display_name, but I encounter an error in the SQL syntax, so the revised settings weren't accepted. I couldn't figure out what the error was, so I just deleted the database and the blog files that I had loaded into the subdirectory of my site. I guess that I'll start over and try to get this database set up with my appropriate names. If I can't do that very easily, I will probably just forget about using a blog. I don't want to spend another week going through this process again. Thanks for your help.

  24. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hello,
    I have configured a new database in my control panel, put the new settings into the wp_config.php file, uploaded all of the wordpress files to the subdirectory of the root for my site, and tried to install the database. When I try to run the install.php file from the wp_admin folder nothing happens. The control box keeps reappearing, but the database is not installed. I have tried to do this from the blog folder on my site as well as from the start menu. What do I have to do to complete this process? Any specific help would be appreciated. Thanks

  25. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Any specific help would be appreciated

    New To WordPress - Where to Start

    Installing WordPress

    Detailed Instructions

    There is only one user name during setup. It is "admin". That is the default. Don't confuse yourself. Don't attempt to change it during installation, and don't worry about it during installation.

    Again, during the install process you get one user name. "admin". WordPress also gives you a random password during the install process. Write it down. Log in with it the first time.

    first login,

    name: admin
    password: the randomly generated password you wrote down during install.

    Now is when you can start changing things - after you login with the default user name "admin", and the password that is generated during the installation. I think you may be trying to put cart way before horse.

    Assuming your host meets all the minimum requirements, this is easy. You'll get it. Then you'll wonder how you ever could have missed it the first time!

    :-)

  26. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    As an afterthought Bob31, if the user name and database name in the wp-config.php file is what is confusing you, those names have absolutely nothing to do with your blog administration or login. Those are strictly information fields that allow wordpress to interact with your database. Do not confuse this with any actual names that will be used on your blog, or in your blogs administration.

    Set up wp-config.php

  27. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Clayton,
    I assume that I need to make some changes in the basic settings for my database before it can be installed. Right now the install.php file is not being opened or run, probably because I don't have the right username in the database.

    Where do I go to make the effective change: in the control panel of my site or in the wp-config.php file or does it have to be made in both places?

    Once I get this change made, I hope that I will just have to download the revised version of my wp-config.php file to the subdirectory of my site. Is that right? Then the install.php file should install the database. Right? And when exactly can I replace the default user name, "admin", with something else? If I login with that user name, it seems to be installed permanently on the database account. That is what I discovered before. I could change the password, but was only allowed to cite a "nickname" for the user. This is the point of my confusion.

    I really appreciate your help with this. The instructions in the Codex guide are not as understandable as they might be. Anyway, I'm still trying to get the database installed. Thanks.

  28. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Clayton,
    I changed the user name to "admin" in the MySQL controls on the control panel for my site and in the wp-config.php file of the blog database. I then uploaded this revised file to the subdirectory, blog, on my host's server. I then tried to open or run the install.php script from the wp-admin file, but it won't open or install the database. I only get a repeated display of the File Download control with this message: "Do you want to open or save this file?" The "open" control doesn't do anything except repeat the Download control. The "save" control saves the install.php file to my Desktop, but it still can't get installed from there. What do I have to do to get this database installed? This is far from being a simple process!!

  29. ClaytonJames
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I changed the user name to "admin" in the MySQL controls on the control panel for my site and in the wp-config.php file of the blog database. I then uploaded this revised file to the subdirectory

    Nowhere, in any of the documentation I provided links to, my suggestions, or the instructions, does it tell you to do that for installation. I believe you are still trying to go your own way rather than follow the installation instructions, or any guidance.

    Please carefully re-read what I have said, then re-read the installation instructions, and take it one step at a time.

    The only name and password that goes in the wp-config file is the database user name and the database users password provided to you by your hosting service, that allows you to access your database. I can assure you, it most probably should not be "admin". It has no relevance to your wordpress user name or login.

    Follow the directions listed here exactly. Use the page as a reference. Do what it suggests, one step at a time. This really is a five minute process.

    Start with a fresh database. Empty the existing tables in your database. Start with a fresh wp-config.php. Fill in the information based on the instructions. The user name and password is not what you want it to be, but what your host has told you it is. This is for access to your database. Not the user name and password you want to use for wordpress. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.

    Delete the files you uploaded to your blog. Upload a fresh wordpress package to your web space. open your browser, go to your site.

    //www.bob31s-site/wp-admin/install.php

    If the data you provided in wp-config is correct (based on the information assigned to you by your hosting service) and your server meets the minimum requirements, wordpress will now install.

    It's like putting together a model airplane. Follow the directions, one step at a time and it looks good. Throw them away and do it yourself, and you probably wind up with something less than the picture on the box. Short of that, perhaps your hosting service has a method by which they can do the installation for you. Many do.

  30. Bob31
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Clayton,
    For over a week now I have been trying to install a WP database blog into my website. I have done my best to follow the instructions in the WordPress Codex instructions for this process. Yesterday I removed my database and the WP files from the blog subdirectory on my site. Today I have been trying to correctly set up the necessary database for my blog. Now you are instructing me to remove all of these files and settings and to start all over and "it really is a five minute process". My friend, it takes longer than that just to load all of the wordpress files back onto the subdirectory of my site.

    How do I start with a fresh database? How do I empty the existing tables in my database? I've got Codex instructions for "Installing WordPress" and Codex instructions for "Editing wp-config.php", and instructions for "Uploading WordPress to a remote host". These instructions are very confusing. I initially tried to follow them, and when I got to the point of opening the install.php file to run the script, I encountered the same problem as I mentioned above. It didn't do anything except to repeat the display of the "File Download". After several attempts to get something to happen, the control changed and I got another WordPress form. I don't know what activated it. I filled it out with the supplied citations, and apparently the database was quickly installed, but it had the "admin" user name, which I couldn't change. I don't know how to avoid these problems. You indicate that the "user name and password" that I initially cited are just "for access to your database" and they are not the same "user name and password" that I may want to use for my blog, but I can't seem to avoid some problems in this process. Please give me some clear brief instructions as answers to my above two questions. I'm still willing to try to install a WP database, but it obviously takes more than five minutes. Thanks again for your efforts to help.

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