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W3 Total Cache - self hosted CDN > how to setup the subdomain (16 posts)

  1. E Mark
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    hi,

    i'm having doubts about the setup of my (self-hosted / shared hosting) CDN (content delivery network) with W3 Total Cache Plugin.

    So, i want to make a subdomain cdn.domain.com

    should this subdomain point to http://www.domain.com or http://www.domain.com/cdn ??

    What should i do to make this subdomain cookieless?

  2. john-michael
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    A CDN isn't just a separate domain to host your static content. The purpose of the CDN is to serve files to clients (people that view your web page) from servers that are closest to them geographically.

    For example, you have a server where your website is. Let's say that server is in Virgina, USA. With all else considered equal, people visiting your site from VA will experience quicker load times than those in California. That's where a CDN comes in. A company that has a CDN network will have servers all over the country. They will take your static content and put them on their network. So when the VA guy visits, he gets files from the closest server in Virginia. The guy in California will be downloading your website files from a server near him in California.

    So creating a subdomain for your static content really has nothing to do with a CDN. But it does have benefits, so I would recommend it.

    Calling a domain "cookieless" is a bit missleading, but it's used nonetheless. Cookies are set at the application level, not the server. So there really is no server setting that you can apply to prevent cookies. So you have to tell WordPress explicitely which domain to set cookies to. Otherwise it will set to all. And to answer your question, it's better to create a subdomain for your static content.

    How to set your cookie domain in WP: http://codex.wordpress.org/Editing_wp-config.php#Set_Cookie_Domain

    Also, if you're using Google Analytics, you'll also be able to explicitly state which domain to set cookies.

    _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-XXXXXXXX-X'],
    			['_setDomainName', 'www.domain.com'],
    			['_trackPageview']);

    More Info: http://code.google.com/apis/analytics/docs/concepts/gaConceptsCookies.html

    Hopefully that clears a few things up.

  3. E Mark
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    hi john-michael,

    thank you so very much for replying. This will surely help me to get closer to a solution.

    However, i'm still puzzled with my initial question:

    "Should this subdomain point to http://www.domain.com or http://www.domain.com/cdn ??"

    The reason i'm asking this is because of the following phrases:

    "Easiest way is to setup a CNAME record aliasing your static domain to your main domain. You will need register a separate domain name to do this or you can use a subdomain of your domain.

    If you do not have a separate domain, create a subdomain using your site’s control panel. Make sure that the subdomain points to your main domain’s root folder."

    which comes from the article on http://www.riyaz.net/blog/how-to-setup-your-own-cdn-in-30-minutes/technology/890/

    So, i'm sure i'm gonna create a subdomain. now i just need te know where to point it to.

    Thanks
    I appreciate your feedback

  4. john-michael
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    However, i'm still puzzled with my initial question:

    "Should this subdomain point to http://www.domain.com or http://www.domain.com/cdn ??"

    Sorry, I did answer that, but the answer is rather buried in my response.

    What it's referring to is this...

    Create a subdomain: media.domain.com. You can put all your files there and tell wordpress to save all it's uploads there, OR (the better option) you can just map the wp-content/uploads/ folder to media.domain.com. You can accomplish this in cpanel. Otherwise refer to your host.

    Now if you want to use a CDN like amazon etc... (not create your own, that isn't what I recommend) then you'll want to point amazon to your media.domain.com. That takes care of the CDN. you'll just have to set up the w3tc to work with amazon.

    As for the cookieless question, I think I already answered that. It's at the application level. So just set your google analytics and wordpress to use http://www.domain.com

    -JM

  5. E Mark
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    thanks JM !

  6. instantit
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hello Mark,

    I am not sure if you have actually solved your W3TC setup with your CDN as I am suspected that you are actually not having a real CDN with multiple server caching on the files. If you are having a different path for your images or contents, then it is not CDN. It is just merely a different location of your contents on different folder on same server or different server.

    If you have subscribed to your a CDN services, it is most likely that you will need to create a CNAME record for your CDN hostname and pointed to your CDN servers. For further information, you can refer http://instantcdn.asia/enable-instantcdn-on-wordpress-using-w3-total-cache-plugin/

  7. E Mark
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Thanks instantit, that's a nice article.

    i succeeded in setting up my self-hosted cdn. I made a subdomain static.domain.com which points to http://www.domain.com/static and used my normal ftp account for configuration in the w3 total chache plugin. No need to map the subdomain to another folder or create a separate ftp account for that subdomain.

  8. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Any other questions?

  9. E Mark
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hi Frederick, thanks for asking ;o)

    yes, i have another question:

    After activating W3 Total Cache, a link "purge from page cache" appears under each posttitle in the post overview.

    1. what is it for?
    2. I have a blog with over 300 contributors, and they all can see this link. How can i hide it?

    Thanks!
    I appreciate your feedback.

  10. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    That's for emptying the cache for the specified page. I will make sure this is shown only to administrators in the next release.

  11. klint01
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I have a question that I am not sure is answered in this chain, so looking for clarification.

    My site is hosted with Just Host and I have multiple wordpress blog sites installed and hosted on the server. Each one is within its own sub-directory off the root. I have created sub-domains for each site, so they are as follows:
    site1.domain.net
    site2.domain.net

    If I want to create a self-hosted CDN (cdn.domain.net), what do I then declare as the cookie domain for each site in wordpress and google analytics?
    Would it be site1.domain.net for site1 and then site2.domain.net for site2 or should it be universally .domain.net?

    Thanks!

  12. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    For self-hosted CDN the domain cookie is irrelevant if you're using a subdomain because most of your previous site visitors already have a google analytics cookies for all domains and subdomains for your site. If you want a cookieless domain, use an entirely unique TLD.

  13. netkiwi
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    RE: E. Mark's post on how to prevent the "purge from page cache" link appearing under each post title in the post overview.

    You said in response: "I will make sure this is shown only to administrators in the next release."

    I require this also.

    I am now using w3tc 0.9.2.3 (which looks like it was updated 21 June 2011) - but still find that the link is there for Authors and Editors.

    Will this be happening in the next release - or is there some workaround at present - that I could implement?

    By the way - spent a few hours getting the settings just right for my server - and my website is super speedy now - thanks.

  14. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    If you can send me an email, I will try not to forget again.

  15. rhinonabox
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    RE: E. Mark's post on how to prevent the "purge from page cache" link appearing under each post title in the post overview.

    You said in response: "I will make sure this is shown only to administrators in the next release."

    I require this also.

    I am now using w3tc 0.9.2.3 (which looks like it was updated 21 June 2011) - but still find that the link is there for Authors and Editors.

    Will this be happening in the next release - or is there some workaround at present - that I could implement?

    By the way - spent a few hours getting the settings just right for my server - and my website is super speedy now - thanks.

    Any updates on this? I have cleared all cache in the admin and my editors still can't edit pages. It says "purge from page cache" and if they click that link, they are told they do not have sufficient permissions. I need a work around or fix. - Thanks

  16. fredsk2006
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi, I've got similar problem. After installing and activating W3 Total Cache, sub-menus/sub-pages won't show up. My sub-menus will only show up when I deactivate it back.

    Hope you can help me guys....

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