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Using WordPress as an Image Bank (8 posts)

  1. jordanjustkidding
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi guys,

    I'm trying to create a little image bank and have spent the past few months learning how to use wordpress to make use of its built in archiving and categorising systems. However I have a small question - I know this has been covered extensively on various forums and websites but I'm still unsure as to which is best.

    Now the image bank works like so: Each post is an image - the post title is the image's index code. Users can browse through images by filtering them through categories (for example they can click on the plane category to see all the planes). But I am unsure whether it would it be better for me to use wordpress' tags or categories for this?

    I understand they behave slightly differently and for any 'normal' blog perhaps it would be better to use tags. However due to the amount of categories and subcategories I will need - perhaps categories would be better due to their ease of use. It's also important to mention that each image (or post) could be applied to multiple categories (for example: plane, red, 1960, man, woman, airport etc.)

    It's also important to understand that these sub categories need to exist under category headings for ease of navigation. For example: Transport > Plane. Colour > Red. Date > 1960 and so on.

    Sorry for the long winded explanation - does anyone have some advice? What do you think would be better?

    Many thanks in advance,
    Jordan

    Here is my website so far, I'm currently using categories: http://www.museumofmodernlife.com

  2. Steffen Jørgensen
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I would use tags for this.
    Like: "plane, red, 1960,man, woman, airport" and so on - just like you descripe youself.
    Categories are more general.

    I have a photoblog myself (http://photo.jint.dk/), with concertphotos. I use categoeries to filter by artist and venue.
    If I was to filter by eg. "drummer, guitar, bass" and so on I would use tags.

    Also, I use the "post_thumbnail" for adding the image to the post. This gives me the possibility to quickly change the output-size of the image.

  3. jordanjustkidding
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thanks Jint - nice photoblog.

    May I ask why are categories more general? What makes them more general? And what makes tags more appropriate for this kind of thing?

    If I were to use tags to label all of my images - I wouldn't have any use for categories. And one of the main reasons for using categories for me is being able to display them as a drop down menu, with parent categories and sub categories. From what I see tags can only be displayed as a list, is that right?

    Thanks again
    Jordan

  4. It's just how things got 'defined' really. I actually use custom taxonomies so my tags have 'groups.' Like I have a site about an actor, so I have tags for 'tv' and 'media', but under those, I have the TV shows, or the type of media (interview, video, photos, screencaps) etc etc.

    IMO, there's no one 'right' way, but Lorelle explained it pretty well: http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/categories-versus-tags-whats-the-difference-and-which-one/

  5. jordanjustkidding
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thanks guys. Lorelle's explanation is helpful, I think I understand but I'm still having a hard time trying to apply this to my image bank.

    You know I think I might stick with using categories as tags, instead of using tags (even though I get the feeling using tags would be more correct). But for the idiosyncrasies of my site I think categories will work better - for navigational ease as well as it being easier for me to maintain.

    I hugely appreciate your input - thanks very much both of you.

  6. I feel like a Lorelle shill today...

    Watch this: http://lorelle.wordpress.com/2010/04/27/one-minute-with-lorelle-planning-your-blog/

    It may help you even more. I had forgotten about this post for a moment, but it shows you the thought process. It is hard, by the way, for everyone when we're getting started.

  7. jordanjustkidding
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Many thanks for your input guys - that video was a bit too brief to clear anything up for me. But the categories = contents, tags = index is a useful explanation by Lorelle.

    I don't mean to be a pain but I'm still having trouble with this - I think for any traditional blog it would be easy to make the distinction, but in my case it gets tricky because there's a few things I need to consider (apologies for the lengthy explanation):

    It's an image bank where all of the images are 35mm slides from the mid twentieth century - so the topics can range from weddings, holidays, funerals, portraits, landscapes and everything inbetween - the images cover everyday life in all its aspects (unlike Jint's concert photography site, which is a very specific topic and so I understand the need for both categories and tags).

    It is targeted towards designers, artists, illustrators, set designers etc. as a resource for referencing. So users may wish to know what people dressed like in weddings from the 1940s... or perhaps someone needs to draw a 1950s car... or use an image of an old baseball stadium.

    So in terms of navigation there's a couple of things I think are important - firstly users should be able to browse and filter the images by a specific category: for example if you wanted to see all the images that had planes in them, you could go to the Transport > Planes category. I'm currently using a drop down menu for this - which turns a massive list of items into a compact little bar, which I think works well.

    Secondly users should be able to browse multiple categories (for example, they may want to see only planes that are red... so Transport > Planes and Colour > Red). This isn't possible with the drop down menu but a search feature would be able to perform that action (there's a plugin that allows searchable categories as well as tags).

    As you know my dilemma is whether to use categories or tags for this... Categories can be displayed in an easy to navigate menu such as the one I'm currently using (wp-list-categories), but I'm not sure if this will cause me problems in future; in terms of SEO or connecting to other sites. Maybe not?

    Tags seem the more traditional way to go, everyone so far says they would be better - yet no one can quite to explain why they are better. In terms of navigation I think tag clouds are not very functional and I don't think there's any way to display them in a drop down menu - there's no wp-list-tags or the ability to organise child tags by their parents (or is there?)

    Lorelle explains categories are like a contents page, and tags are the index page. This makes sense, but in my case I don't think I have a contents page - just an index... but the ability to navigate through this easily is important, so perhaps categories are better?

    Here's the website at the moment: http://www.museumofmodernlife.com the images are just test runs, but you can see the drop down menu and the minimal approach I'm trying to go for - all emphasis on the images.

    Apologies again for the massive explanation, but I do feel this is different from your regular blog or image bank... I'm no wordpress or php expert either so I need to be able to keep it simple.

    I'd still very much like to hear you guys think about this, and really appreciate your input.

    Thanks again.

  8. jgubata
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Just came across this, and realize it may be too late for you, but might be helpful to other readers.

    Think of a text book. Categories are like the table of contents and tags are like the index. They are not mutually exclusive. Categories are the way you organize your content. Tags are more about what's is in a particular piece of content you organized.

    Example: a travel blog on France might be organized by the categories "Regions", "History", and "Climate". "Regions" may be divided into subcategories of "Places", which may be divided into sub-sub-categories of "Restaurants", "Lodging", "Activities", "Sites to see". When you are adding content to "Sites to see" for Paris, you will tag the item about the Eiffel Tower with the tag "Eiffel Tower", because the Eiffel Tower does not deserve it's own subcategory (it would if your blog was about major sites in Paris, but it's not). When you add a restaurant with a view of the Eiffel Tower, you might also add the Eiffel tag to that item. And you might be writing a blog about a day you spent in Paris, which mentions that you happened to see "Meryl Streep" there, so you tag that blog with "Meryl Streep" and "Eiffel Tower".

    As a visitor to your blog, I might head straight to the category of "sights to see" to find out what I might want to see when I visit Paris, and will find that the Eiffel Tower is listed there. Or, curious about why the Eiffel Tower is such a big deal, I might click on "Eiffel Tower" in the tag cloud and be presented with the "Sites to See" item, the restaurant review, and the blog about the Paris visit. As I read this latter article, I see the mention of "Meryl Streep" and think, "man, I LOVE Meryl Streep. I wonder if she's mentioned elsehwere here". Now I click on the Meryl Streep tag and am rewarded with another article you wrote a year ago that mentions Ms. Streep.

    In the above example, you are not going to have an entry in your Table of Contents (aka category) about the Eiffel Tower, nor Meryl Streep. That's too granular. But in your site "index" (aka tags), you will certainly find them.

    Hope this helps.

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