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User registrations for network sites (17 posts)

  1. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Hello,

    I read this very interesting thread and related plugin about individual user registrations here.

    but I'm a bit confused...
    How does user registration work on WP MS?
    When I enable registrations at network admin (ie "User accounts may be registered") this allows users to register at the main site. They are not yet registered at any other network site. But how to enable registrations to network sites? I mean, by default, without any plugin, how does this work?

    I would much appreciate if someone can provide some clear explanation here.

    Thanks a lot!

  2. David Sader
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    If a user is "logged in" to the network s/he is "logged in" on every site therefore can leave comments.

    Individual site member roles have to be assigned at each sites'(or Network Sites menu) users menu.

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Multisite_Network_Administration#User_Access

    Note the differences in the approaches of each of these plugins:
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/multisite-user-management/
    http://wordpress.org/plugins/join-my-multisite/

  3. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Many thanks for this.
    But still not very clear for me...

    - By default, visitors of any of the sites have to register at the main site first and then the admin has to assign them their roles for any other sub-site manually?

    - The 2 plugins you mention offer something that seems to be missing here, but I really can't get it why there is a need for a plugin. I mean, the purpose of MS is to be able to develop different sub-domains, aka for different clients. How may those clients manage their own subscribers without referring to the main site? From what you say and what I read this sounds impossible in standard MS installations and hence the need of the 2 plugins you mention? I'm I right here?

  4. David Sader
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    "different sub-domains, aka for different clients"?

    Yes but they share the same users, socially, in the same network, it is a social network.

    WordPress is social network stuff - like wordpress.com or Facebook and the like. Users have their own site, and belong to the big picture at the same time.

    You can't sign up to just one Facebook page, you get the network. You can't signup to just one wordpress.com site, you get access to the whole shebang.

    Each site has control over its own contributors, authors, editors and Admins - and that control rests with the individual site administrator.

  5. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    OK, I got it. You are absolutely right.
    Now, what happens when a visitor goes straight to sub-domainX?

    - How does he subscribe? He has to be re-directed to the main site's registration page, right?

    - Does then the super-admin have to add him in the users list of this sub-domainX also or this is not needed?

    Thanks for your feedback.

  6. David Sader
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    - How does he subscribe? He has to be re-directed to the main site's registration page, right?

    Yes, now the network admin has some theme design to do - get buttons/badges/banners/brands to do that, yes.

    Once a user belongs to the entire network, s/he is a subscriber of all network sites - no other step is necessary on sub-domainX.

  7. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Thanks a lot for this very useful clarification. I appreciate.
    The remaining user management tasks for sub-sites is, I presume, mainly for adding individual editors, authors and admins, right?

  8. David Sader
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Indeed.

  9. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Many thanks for your time!

  10. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    ... sorry to get back on this, but I still have a small question about your previous statement:

    "Once a user belongs to the entire network, s/he is a subscriber of all network sites - no other step is necessary on sub-domainX".

    - If a given sub-site wants to send updates to subscribers when a new blog post is published does he need to manage this with yet another plugin?

    I'm not new to WP but it's the first time I need to manage blog posts in relation with subscribers and I'm a bit confused with what I read and what is stated in the Codex about the capabilities of subscribers: they are simply noted as "read" and I really don't understand what this means for a public site that actually "anyone" can read without being subscribed to anything and, moreover, WP subscribers automatically get the capability to comment posts, which is definitely NOT reading but writing.

    I would appreciate your comments about this if it's not asking too much. Thanks.

  11. If a given sub-site wants to send updates to subscribers when a new blog post is published does he need to manage this with yet another plugin?

    Yes, because 'subscriber' doesn't mean what you think it means.

    Network Users have a 'fake' account on all sites on the network, but they don't show in the users lists unless they have a specific role on that site. So each site cannot send an email to EVERYONE on the network.

  12. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Hi Mika, thanks for your insight.

    If I well understand, when a visitor wants to comment on a given network site he is first driven to a "subscriber" process in order to be identified. Then, that's all he gets: the right to post comments on any of the network sites. Right?

    Now, if a given network site wants to send blog updates to his clients he has to make them sign a separate form for that - EVEN if they are already among those who posted comments before (as in example above). Right?

    If the above statements are correct, what plugins would you recommend for both actions above?

  13. D_A_Charles
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    I'm totally new to WP and have a question. I hope this is the proper place to address it.

    I'm now techno-savvy, at all and have a friend who is willing to help me get my WP up and running. Can I add her as a user to allow her access to my page, and at a later time, remove that user if I chose to?

    I found a place to add users, but no documentation as far as removing them later.

    Help?

  14. D_A_Charles - Please make a new topic for yourself. It's terribly hard to support two people with different issues in one thread.

    John -

    If I well understand, when a visitor wants to comment on a given network site he is first driven to a "subscriber" process in order to be identified. Then, that's all he gets: the right to post comments on any of the network sites. Right?

    This is correct enough :) All users on a network are "subscribers" to all sites on a network, while they may not actually be MEMBERS of the specific site. It's weird, I agree!

    Now, if a given network site wants to send blog updates to his clients he has to make them sign a separate form for that - EVEN if they are already among those who posted comments before (as in example above). Right?

    Yes and no. It depends on HOW he wants to send blog updates. For example, I use Jetpack which has a subscribe to posts feature. That will email everyone who opts in, regardless of if they've commented or not! And for what it's worth, this is the proper way to handle things, as I would be horked off at you if commenting auto-signed me up to your update list ;)

  15. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    D_A_Charles: I don't think your question has ANYTHING to do here, moreover in the Multisite section. Move elsewhere please.

  16. John
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Hi Mika, you should write a new WP documentation about this topic as the existing one is really very poor in that sector!

    For instance, I don't well understand the subscriber's role & capabilities as defined in the codex as "read". A subscriber is someone who may post comment and that's definitely not "read" but "write"!

    Anyhow, thanks a lot for your feedback above. I try to get the full picture as this is the first time I setup a MS and want to be sure what I'm doing.

    I agree also about the logic of the second half of the message but, personally, I dislike Jetpack. That's why I asked you about Subscribe2 on another thread, because it does that same job with subscribers - without having to install the whole shebang of Jetpack.

  17. I wrote a book on WP Multisite ;) So while a lot of the info does get back to the wiki, I didnt' write it all in a codex-appropriate way.

    Given that a lot of hosts throttle mail being sent, or require you to prove opt-in via logs etc, offloading your emails to a service specifically for that is something I always recommend :) I didn't used to! But this takes load off my server, making it faster for what I want it to do: server WP.

    Jetpack is an example. MailChimp, MailPoet, and others are also out there :)

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