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Use no spam plugins? (25 posts)

  1. So Matt's not using any spam plugins. It'd be cool if he wasn't the only one, but I just haven't seen any posts on it. Has anybody else had success with this?

    - Bryan

  2. carthik
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I don't use any lately at a blog that use 1.5-gamma, and it's all good and shiny. A good list of spam words seals the deal for me. It's not watertight, but it works well for me.

  3. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Well, Bryan, that depends on how you would define that. I'm using WP's default blacklist and WP-HashCash. Ok, so I am using an anti-spam plugin, but give me a chance to explain. I don't consider WP-HashCash to be the same as most other anti-spam plugins (IOW captchas, Spam Karma, and Spaminator), because it requires no maintenance or intervention on my part, and it's invisible to my readers. WP-HashCash uses an encrypted hidden field. You must have javascript enabled to decode the encrypted field (most bots don't use javascript) and must have entered the comment from the actual post link to generate the correct value for the field. So, if a bot either didn't have javascript or directly visited wp-comments-post.php, the comment would simply not go through. No deleting, no moderation, it just never existed. This works miracles, as long as all of your readers have javascript enabled (mine do).

    WP-HashCash: http://elliottback.com/wp/archives/2004/11/29/spam-stopgap-extreme/

  4. The spam words list at the Codex, right? Sweet! I'll try going without Spamintor for a bit and see how it goes.

    Also, did you leave your trackbacks and pingbacks enabled? I'm still pondering that.

    Thanks for the speedy reply, man. =)

    - Bryan

  5. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Bryan, if you want a really hefty blacklist, try mine: http://www.macmanx.com/wordpress/bad.txt (I'm not responsible for any psychological damage sustained by the use of this list.)

    Also, Lorelle has added her blacklist after three months of running Kitten's Spam Words: http://codex.wordpress.org/Talk:Spam_Words

  6. Thanks James! Methinks I'll try yours first. =)

  7. tcloer
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I have WP Hashcash and Spam Karma running, the latter because i had a lot of trackback spam recently... My SK blacklist is at http://www.teezeh.info/wp-content/spam-karma/export-blacklist.php

  8. Matt Mullenweg
    Troublemaker
    Posted 9 years ago #

    The reason I can use no spam plugins?

    * People who don't have an approved comment are held for moderation, so spam never sees my site.
    * I have blatant spam terms in the built-in blacklist so I never see it
    * Anything that comes through is so easy to delete from the moderation screen

    That doesn't mean I'm not getting any spam, in fact thousands and thousands, I just never see it.

  9. lstelie
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So Matt's not using any spam plugins. It'd be cool if he wasn't the only one, but I just haven't seen any posts on it. Has anybody else had success with this?

    After some tries with SpamKarma and Spaminator, I ended in using the best anti-spam around (by far) : moderation

  10. tom_raftery
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    lstelie,

    I tried just moderation to kill Spam but I found that I was spending too much time deleting comments from the moderation queue.

    I use Spam Karma and I modify my .htaccess based on the output from Spam Karma and I find this incredibly efficient in stopping spam. If you would like to see a copy of the .htaccess file I created - click here - this is, by definition, a work in progress.

    Hope this helps,

    Tom.

  11. tom_raftery
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I should add to that last comment that editing .htaccess files should be done with extreme care as they have the power to take down your entire site, if mis-configured.

    Tom

  12. @Matt: Can you post your spam terms and stuff somewhere? If you could do that in the Codex, I think that'd be pretty cool. Also, do you put anything in .htaccess or try to do it all from your admin control panel?

    @Tom: thanks for posting your .htaccess file. Someone will find good use of it!

    I think moderation would work for me because I don't get that many comments. ;)

  13. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thanks, Tom! That's actually more educational than most of the tutorials I've seen.

  14. tom_raftery
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    macmanx,

    thanks - I have a more comprehensive tutorial on using .htaccess and how I came to create that file here here - hope it is useful to someone.

    Tom

  15. kyte
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I haven't been using spam plugins since January 11. I found that by using the contents of the moderation list in the blacklist, as well as adding the odd IP, and those munged IDs they were posting with for a while (and may still be, but I don't see 'em), I have been successful in keeping most spam out. I also don't allow more than 2 hyperlinks in any post. So far I have only had to deal with the moderation queue twice, and on each occasion I have added the relevant part of the URL to my blacklist. I have had no inappopriate comments actually getting in, and I have no need to moderate manually. Its working. My blacklist is really quite short.

  16. kyte
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Only two days since I posted this and I have been hit by a spammer (t-h) whose name in a few variations (including the one he used to post, PLUS words he used) is on the blacklist. However he was still able to post. ??????

    Back to moderating every comment :(

  17. RustIndy
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I noticed that as well - i have "online-poker" and a couple other things on my blacklist, but spammers can still post their BS on my blog - even if the exact phrase "online-poker" exists in their name or URI :( Doesn't seem to be much use to be honest.... or am I doing it wrong?

  18. If you leave blank lines, that might cause a problem...I'm not sure. Try clearing it and re-pasting them again.

    http://codex.wordpress.org/Spam_Words

  19. James: You deleted your spam words list from your site above, probably when you were doing your upgrade and forgot to reupload it.

  20. kyte
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    In my case, it was before the upgrade and the exact spam words existed not only in the blacklist but also in the moderation list. Is it possible that there may be a conflict if they are in both places? Whatever the case, I had not had spam for a month until today, and this a** is bypassing the filtration system.

  21. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Sorry, I didn't think anyone was still using it. It's back up now, and I've updated it.

    http://www.macmanx.com/wordpress/bad.txt (I'm not responsible for any psychological damage sustained by the use of this list.)

    On topic, I am still using HashCash with v1.5, as I just don't want to deal with comments that are directly submitted to wp-comments-post.php. No problems and no spam so far.

  22. Thanks James. Might as well make it a page in WP, don't you think? ;)

  23. tom_raftery
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Cool list macmanx,

    I tend to put a period after the words in my list - the thinking being because it is a blacklist, I don't want to limit legitimate use of some of the words in the list - like casino for example - in and of itself an inocuous word.

    However, followed by a period, either it is at the end of a sentence, or it is spam ie xxx.casino.tld

    It seems to be working quite well for me, no spams so far - no comments about casinos either mind ;-)

    Tom

  24. James
    Happiness Engineer
    Posted 9 years ago #

    "Might as well make it a page in WP, don't you think?"

    With those keywords?! Heck no! ^_-

  25. Hahaha!

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