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Unfortunately the author does not give requirements (11 posts)

1 star
  1. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    In the installation the author should mention that this builder is dependent on certain premium themes.

  2. benjaminbradley
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It does say that this plugin requires a themeblvd 2.2 version theme to use this plugin.

  3. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Please show me where.

  4. Jason (Theme Blvd)
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I apologize for any confusion, but to be fair, it does say this in bold letters on the plugin page before the description of the plugin, and gives you a notice when activating it to which you can simply remove the plugin. Does this really warrant giving the plugin a one-star? Not too kind and obviously not an honest review of the plugin.

    Please show me where.

    http://www.uploadblvd.com/uploads/image_51687a6fc0bae.png

  5. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Miss that one. Please add it to the Installation area.

    About the 1 star. Perhaps I was incorrect and unfair. That fact is the installation should have had the requirements, because you can not install unless you have the framework. Secondly, this is entirely dependent a premium product which means it is not usable unless you pay for the framework. So on that I gave it a one rating.

    On another note, the fact the plugin resides in the WordPress repository of free plugins, it later becomes apparent this is a waste of time for those of us who after installing it, you need to purchase the framework.

    I have no problems in premium products, but the path to getting what is perceived as free is not free.

    This may be purely innocent on your part and for that I would like to retract my rating.

  6. @RonDsy Hosting plugins on WordPress.org that depend on commercial products is perfectly acceptable and within the guidelines of WordPress.org.

  7. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Yes I know this. As I stated, place the requirements within the installation area.

  8. Virtus Designs
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    This plugin is completely free and as @Jason pointed out, it is clearly labeled that it is for use with his premium framework. As a fellow developer, it is very frustrating to get poor ratings not because it doesn't work but because someone is upset that they don't get to use it without purchasing something else. Even if he didn't clearly label this as a plugin intended to be used with his premium framework, it's not appropriate to give it a poor rating to express feelings of frustration. Ratings are intended to let people know if the plugin works well or not, not how you feel about the developer.

    A lot of time goes into developing themes and plugins for the WordPress community to utilize and Jason has contributed some very solid and useful work.

  9. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    RE: Giving a low rating because a plugin's description does not make aware that the plugin in order to work, requires a payment or subscription.

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    My response has little to do with Jason and central about using ratings to penalize the author of mis-labeling a product.

    I would rather not discount a plugin because it was mislabeled by the author and rather it be rated on performance and use.

    "I apologize for any confusion, but to be fair, it does say this in bold letters on the plugin page before the description of the plugin, and gives you a notice when activating it to which you can simply remove the plugin." It would have been better to stated that purchasing a premium theme is required.

    After closer evaluation, from the response, I do not see that the author mislead the public intentionally but rather did not fully display that the plugin was tied to a premium product in order for it to work.

    WordPress.org needs to possibly amend to their policies that a plugin can be listed on WordPress.org only if the plugin can operate fully without the requirement of having a premium product or service. The spirit of the policy I think is to reward plugin authors who are doing what WordPress core developers have done to build the WordPress brand, offer for free, quality open source scripts. The reward is that authors may list their products, (themes and plugins) on a highly visited site which may later lead to a purchase of a premium product.

    Jason, from Theme Blvd Layout Builder is operating in the gray area of the spirit of the WordPress.org product listing policy when failing to fully disclose that a premium product is required in order to use the free plugin. For this I selected to devaluate the product as it seemed like, at the time, the author was trying to optimize marketing exposure, that is, exploiting the spirit of the WordPress.org policy with regards to listing a product.

    I would like to state again, the author of Theme Blvd Layout Builder was operating within the guidelines of WordPress.org policies. I do maintain that product integrity and the credibility of the author is tied to the product and it is appropriate, when an author intentionally misrepresents/mislabels a product and therefore exploits the spirit of the WordPress.org guidelines for their own marketing benefit, that a WordPress community member has the right and duty to red tag this behavior with a low rating and an explanation.

    It would be proper for me, in light of Jason's intensions to retract the low ratings only when the author of Theme Blvd Layout Builder has added that the theme framework is premium. We all value our time. To make the discovery what we just download will not work unless you purchase a product is mislabeling and results as an improper use of our time and resources.

    Another matter or inconsistency of rating a product - how can you rate a free plugin or theme when you are first required to purchase the product which allows it to operate? The rating discriminates against those who do not want to purchase the premium product. I do not think WordPress.org ratings system was built to accommodate those who could afford to purchased the premium product associated with the free plugin. By the fact you would have to mention the premium product while rating or reviewing the free plugin, gives an unfair advantage for those who are not receiving revenue from their great work.

  10. Virtus Designs
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I know I shouldn't respond but I can't stop myself.

    Another matter or inconsistency of rating a product - how can you rate a free plugin or theme when you are first required to purchase the product which allows it to operate? The rating discriminates to those who do not want to purchase the premium product.

    DON"T RATE IT! Move on with your life and find something else from another developer. If you didn't purchase the premium framework, this plugin isn't intended for you so rating it is nothing more than a temper tantrum to express your feelings rather than a constructive review of a developers work.

  11. As a reviewer for the plugin's directory, I can tell you that Jason is not in any way in the gray area for what is allowed. This plugin and ALL plugins of this kind are 100% acceptable in regards to the policies of the repository. End of story.

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