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thinking outside the box wrt the recent spam issues (9 posts)

  1. carla
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    These are the things I think about when stuck in traffic. :)

    I'm trying, in response to all the irritating (and, in some cases, obscene) comment and trackback spam, to make a point to leave proper trackbacks and comments--more than usual. While we're fighting the spam on the backend...perhaps, on the front end, we should make a point to up the signal to noise ratio. Comment on others' blogs more often. Send pertinent, helpful trackbacks. Seek out new blogs through this support forum, and keep it up.

    It doesn't stop the spam, but it just might keep blogging more fun than frustrating.

  2. khaled
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I completely agree with that. The recent spam we've been getting really got to me actually when I saw it it was like damn man what the hell are they trying to achieve. Maybe we should call this initiative something?

  3. NuclearMoose
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    What about a trackback or pingback that just shows up as a(n) [linked image or insert other idea here] on your site and is ONLY the link back to the source of the *back?

    Do we really need to see ANY text with *backs?

  4. carla
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Take Back the Blog? :)

    I'm going for it. Be prepared to see more of me, y'all. (no, not in that way)

  5. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I've been thinking about this for a while, (probably more than most, given the time I've spent on plugins) and if you really want to venture into tin-foil hat country, the spam problem might even have deeper roots than it seems.

    Observation #1: Very few blogs have visible spam, regardless of what's piled up in the mod queue, visibility counts.

    Observation #2: People (site owners, not necessarily the actual spammer) promoting a business tend to look for results.

    Observation #3: IP log analysis from Spaminator results shows a large variety of IP addresses used.

    :.

    The average joe that wants to make money with his website, doens't have the resources/knowledge to spam a large amount of blogs. He wouldn't be able to vary his IP so drastically, either.

    So, he has to hire someone, the spammer, with his spambot software and access to zombied proxies to send it from.

    The spammer has a nice scam going, and he's working both ends of the table. One, the site owner sees a need to "get the word out" and the spammer is the go-to guy for that, supposedly. Also, the spammer doesn't care about his comments are moderated, because he's not looking for results, he's just looking to show that x amount of comments were posted and he can get his fee.

    So the site own has been duped into thinking that he's getting pagerank, but really only paid for his door hangers to get tossed into the dumpster. If he doesn't get pagerank from the spamming, he's unlikely to continue. The spammer must find more paying "victims."

    This explains the spam that comes in spurts, the site owners don't get results, and give up. But what about the consisten spam that pours in rain or shine?

    On example from my site is the 'byob' spammer, (if you've been hit, you'll notice that signature in the email address used in the comment). He's been attacking my site for over 2 months, and has been directly responsible for several improvements in Spaminator.

    I can only come up with two reasons. He's got his own botnet, and is trying to "make it up in volume," or he has another plan in mind.

    Could spammers like this be working to simply harass blog owners? With the goal in mind of damaging part of the blogosphere to the point that comments are shut off on a majority of blogs?

    I have no idea why, but it seems like a good of explanation as any. Blogging is disruptive media, and maybe we're under an orgainsed attack. It's hard to say, but it's a theory that I've not seen discussed before.

    Any ideas?

  6. Answer to Observation #1: It's in hopes that you see the spam in your email inbox. Most of these spammers know that you block email spam, but you've more than likely whitelisted (always allow) comment notification from your blog. It's a form of email spam that uses your blog against you.

    Answer to Observation #2: Again, the spammers are using it as a form of email spam.

    Answer to Observation #3: Spammers are using a wide variety of spoofed IP addresses to avoid IP blacklists.

  7. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    I could see the blog spam being indirect email spam. Which is funny because my email program (Evolution) is set to pipe Spaminator emails through a logging script then delete it.

    So out of the 3000+ Spaminator emails I've received, I've hardly seen any of them

  8. khaled
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Actually Kitty I'm glad you're here I wanted to thank you for all the efforts on dealing with these a$$holes. I'd probably cry myself to sleep every night if it wasn't for you, seriously. So yeah thanks for all the effort.

    The thing I hate about spam is thatI feel soo helpless about it. I'd really like to take the battle to them. Some magical script that blows up their computers if they send their rubbish.

    It's crazy how many idiots there are in this world, computer virus, spam and any other rubbish, for what? Ah glad there is some sort of defence but I just wish we went on the offence.

  9. Kitten
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Speaking of revenge...

    v2 of Spaminator has an interesting, but dangerous feature: it sends an email to the 'abuse' and 'admin' addresses of the domains used for the spam. I've been playing with different implementations, but updating the mainline has been more important.

    Having the mailback enabled could have the side effect of you being labeled a spammer. But I think I might be able to get it to a point where that danger is minimal.

    Obviously, I've not released this yet.

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