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  1. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Maybe I was feeling patriotic today, not it is not red,whit, and blue but it is of the Alamo. When you post your comments they will be etched in the same stone that the Alamo was built from. This is my last theme, I promise.

    http://cafe789.com/test

    select Alamo from theme switcher

    to download
    http://cafe789.com/alamo.zip

  2. NorthernPassages
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    It looks terrible in IE (the sidebar shoots out past the page), and the background makes it really difficult to read.

  3. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    dawg you have at least two themes which are based on the Gemini template. If you had stuck with it your layout wouldnt have b0rked in IE :)

  4. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    @Root You Know I downloaded the two Gemini Templates because I liked the themes.

    However I know it is borked in IE because IE is not standard compliant but my themes are not based on Gemini. I took the classic and remolded it based on this template from my site.
    http://cafe789.com/ckl1.htm

    This was done over a year ago but am clueless as to why I can not get it to work in IE with one short post. min-height works for FF

    Hmmm??

  5. vkaryl
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Yah, dawg, but neither min-height, nor max-height, nor height:*% work in IE. There are some antsy-dancy workarounds you can use. For a start in that direction, go here and check Claire Campbell's site - she's got some really great info.... also there's a CSS forum at WebmasterWorld; and there's bunches of stuff at AListApart and MeyerWeb too. And BlueRobot - and always check the links page, will send you even farther afield.

    And for what CSS can REALLY do, there's always Zen Garden....

  6. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Thank vkaryl for the links.

    line-height works in IE but that will murder it:) The thing is all three {themes}have this little IE problem
    however it is not an issue as long as there are a couple of posts.

  7. Christopher Anderton
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    It's borked in Firefox too...

  8. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    @Root Worked it out, after several different tries, I went to roots site as I thought he would have replied by now and was going to contact Root but there was no info there but there was an extremely long sidebar with one sentence in the content area, since everything was floated, I did the same and bingo, but I had troubles floating before in IE.

    So I will rework this IE issue in all themes and upload a new version 24 hours from now. I need a break

  9. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    For those that say its borked, rather it is not but I have been changing addding /trying / testing and playing around with things as the url says test so it is my testing site

    And because I am redoing everything with the themes one by one on the test server here is a better url for the time being.

    The themes all three view well across both browsers and when I get the kinks worked out on the test site I will implement the changes here. Mind you the only reason they appeared borked if because there was no content and then only borked in IE not FF but it it looked borked in FF you caught me trying out things.

    here with content

    http://cafe789.com/kyles_eyes

  10. pezastic
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    That looks a lot different than the one in your first link on this thread. I just looked at that one with Firefox and it hurt my eyes. You need more contrast between your foreground and background. The last one is much-more easy on the eyes.

  11. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    @pezastic The first one looked the same, except when there were no quick responses, it went 48 hours before the first response, I had played around so when you saw it , it was not meant for viewing.

    Test is the folder that it was in so I apoligise as I was working on it when it was viewed ugly. When it was first posted it actually looked better than now because of the sidebar

    It should have looked like it does here and I will upload this to the test also.

    http://cafe789.com/kyles_eyes/

  12. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Nice work dawg. Sorry I had not appreciated you were expecting a reply. And my own site is permanently in *live development* *cough*. I always float content and the menu. Always. In goes #clearer. No padding or borders in floated elements and you are home and hack free. And it is guaranteed b0rk free in IE.

  13. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    No problem root, All three of my themes work as they share the same container basically as seen below
    http://cafe789.com/ckl1.htm

    The only problem I have which is not a problem as far as I am concerned is in IE with one short post like the

    "hello world" This is your first post start blogging.

    I can use min-height:500px; and that solves the issue for FF but IE is not standards compliant and does not respect min-height

    As long as there is content the theme looks good. One decent post

    To all those who saw it ugly, yes it does break with a short post only a sentence or two.

    It is not something I am worried about because if there is a post of two hundreds words or two one sentence posts this does not happen.

    But this is the mustard test that is used for the theme submission.
    If the siderbar does not go thru the footer as seen with mine when I got all those ugly comments.

    Thanks Root

  14. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    min-height is a no no. Except for fancy hacks like 1%. Its not necessary. If it is then something in the foundations is unsound. Normally min height means you are not clearing your floats with a #clearer { clear: both; margin 0; padding 0; }

  15. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    So we are clear Root I did not use this methed with floats

    Here is how it was used.

    #content{padding-left:30px;width: 450px;min-height:500px;}

    the min height keeps it looking good if there are no posts in FF but not IE, if I remove all blog posts you would see what I mean in IE only would the sidebar extend down

  16. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    dawg - I am sorry but this is way out. The content and the menu / whatever need to expand/contract according to the content . That is what floats permit. It is what absolute will not (if you need a footer). Your CSS code is a half way house. And it is not going to work because it is a mismatch of CSS rules. It is fundamentally unsound. I am sorry.

  17. Marcos Sader
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    IE sucks in all ways you can imagine, but IT IS NECESSARY to make your theme work in both engines coz there is a lot of people out there still using that crap, in my case i designed equiX with that in mind i know a lolt of people reading me using IE... for god sake check the stats! is 60/40...
    So, i've try so hard to make it work on both of them and i think that untill people starts using ffox or IE gets standard compilant i will keep on it.

  18. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Er yes. I think we got that. Hence the hacking. Never liked splash pages myself. They are lethal to search engines.

  19. dawg
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    Quote dawg - I am sorry but this is way out. The content and the menu / whatever need to expand/contract according to the content

    Quote Root

    It is liquid, it will expand to as manny posts as necessary, note min-height not max so escentially in FF if there is only one sentence it won't bork but will expand to whatever is there.

    PS I know the css is a mess, I need to take out a lot of repeated stuff, plus I made a mistake and saved the wrong css file on top of because the wrong theme was selected in dashboard and not like vkaryl did not have backup so I was screwed. I copied and pasted from several ones so now I have a clean up project, will get to it soon.

  20. Root
    Member
    Posted 9 years ago #

    But what is min-height meant to be doing ?

    the min height keeps it looking good if there are no posts in FF but not IE, if I remove all blog posts you would see what I mean in IE only would the sidebar extend down

    The container should be filling up regardless. It has nothing to do with IE. / FF

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