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Thematic - New div above access? (16 posts)

  1. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hello there - is it possible to start a new div just above access in the Thematic template? I would end it with the belowfooter hook. It's for this site: http://www.altarplaces.com. I'd like to add a container for a drop-shadow (from the purple menu box to the purple footer box). Thanks a lot for any help you can give me.

  2. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Just open up the page templates and add it in manually.

  3. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi Root,

    Thanks so much for the answer. Access is in the thematic_header action hook which is called into the header.php file. I think the hook itself comes from header-extensions.php. When I try to manually add a new div just above #access in header-extensions.php, header.php closes it with the last </div> in header.php instead of letting me close it with belowfooter. Any ideas? Thanks so much again!

    Vicky

  4. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thematic is way too complicated for the end user IMHO..............it is a developer level tool kit for parent themes..........it puts a whole level of thematic functionality between you and WP and yr theme. I never recommend it.

  5. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanks anyway for trying to help, Root. I'm curious as to which theme/framework you do recommend?

  6. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanx for yr interest. But these things always depend on yr skill set and yr ambition in terms of hacking/patching the functionality. Adding divs is not easy outside of widget functionality. I do not use third party themes or frameworks myself ;) I am a roll yr own kind of guy. I always think TwentyTen is a good base. Ditch the head graphic, add yr extra mark up, get the css into a semblance of order..........then build a child theme using style.css and function.php only. Thats the pro approach.

  7. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Of course going my way you can just add the extra presentational markup in the templates too ;) You can do that in thematic but its way more complicated due to the "extensions". Its a very - awesome - piece of work by the authors, but its not to be grappled with lightly IMHO.

  8. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanks very much, Root. I've used Twenty Ten child themes in the past too and they worked fine - more styles to strip down though.

    Unless someone else has an idea how to add a new div above Thematic #access, this site will just have to do without a drop-shadow...

  9. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    surely u got enough container divs to add a shadow in css 3 at least ?

  10. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Unfortunately not. There is no div that starts just above the purple menu box and ends below the footer. I can add a drop-shadow to #access, #main, and #footer but then it shows along the bottom of #access too. I can't change the z-index to hide the bottom shadow because of the drop-downs. Any ideas?

  11. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    incidentally yr #wrapper is not being put to good use..........u can bring it in to wrap the content..........u can do this with yr current mark up.........

  12. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Does #main not wrap the content in Thematic?

  13. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    yes it does...........but access is above it and footer below it...yr wrapper fills the view port...........but anyway.........adding markup is one step more complicated in thematic because of the extensions, the templates dont contain much...........

  14. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    You're right - it's hard to see where the code actually comes from.

  15. Root
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    yup..........thats why i call it developer level........people throw the default theme out too quickly......you can do anything to it without learning how additional software works......and thematic is quite poorly documented at that

  16. Shimna
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Well thanks anyway for responding!

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