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  1. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK--I need to move my WP site from Host A to Host B.
    From the previous comments, you have to have WP installed on the receiving side. Can I upload a backed-up file to the new server, or will this plugin walk me through the steps to do FTP?
    Thanks, Kevin

  2. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    You can upload your backup files to the /wp-content/plugins/wordpress-move/backup/ directory on your new server. Once you finish uploading them, you can use the Restore method to finalize the migration operation.

  3. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thx for the info. Now on the config page for the current install, it's asking for the remote backup path. Will that be available once I install WP on the destination host?

  4. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I thought you already had backups of your current installation generated by WordPress Move.

    Now, you have two options:

    1) Letting WordPress Move handle the transfer of your backup files by properly configuring the plugin.

    2) Transferring the backup files yourself.

    For the first option, the server you are migrating to needs to have a working FTP server. If you have one running, enter the FTP details of the server you are migrating to, on the WordPress Move configuration page of your current WordPress installation. For the remote backup path, you need to enter the full path to the /wordpress-move/backup/ directory on the server you are migrating to, starting from the top directory that your FTP account has access to. If these sound complicated, follow the instructions on the next paragraph.

    For the second option, fill in the configuration page of WordPress Move with incorrect data, so that WordPress Move stops asking you to fill in the fields on the configuration page. Once done, go to Migration Assistant and start the migration. It will be able to create backup files but will fail to connect the target server as we provided incorrect data. Go to Backup Manager and download the backup files by clicking on their names. Open your FTP client and connect to the server you want to migrate to. Then, upload your backup files to the /wp-content/plugins/wordpress-move/backup/ directory on your new server. Once you finish uploading them, you can use the Restore option of the Migration Assistant on the server you are migrating to, to finalize the migration operation.

  5. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, my eyes just glassed over.
    I did a full backup with WP Move on the current host.
    I just installed WP and WP Move on the destination server.
    What is the easiest of the two (2) methods you just gave? I am not a coder or overly technical. I would assume that Opt. #1 is the easier. The new host (Blue Host) has an FTP server and I have an FTP address.
    Thanks for your help.
    Kevin

  6. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    The first one is actually easier and is the method that is intended to be used but your FTP server must be working properly.

    The second one is an alternative method in which you trick WordPress Move to just make it generate the backup files.

  7. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I am assuming that both FTP servers are working.
    The instructions aren't overly clear on the WP Move settings side on the new host.
    Hostname? Am I putting the current host ftp server info in that box? Remote backup path? Is that the path where the backup files are on the current server? In the backup manager on the current host, there is no URL, just a list of backup up files/databases--So these things are not clear to me.
    Kevin

  8. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    You are establishing an FTP connection the server you are migrating to, so those are the FTP details of your new server.

    Open your FTP client and connect to your new server. Navigate to /wp-content/plugins/wordpress-move/backup/. Somewhere on your FTP client, there must be a text box showing the full path to where you are, like, /public_html/wp/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-move/backup/. That is exactly what you need to enter to the Remote Backup Path field.

  9. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    So, trying to understand. Working in WP Admin to configure FTP clients. Now will need to go into FTP itself to obtain the backup path? If so, might I suggest that that info be made available on the page (Back Up Manager) so a not so technically talented guy like me can copy/paste right from there?
    Please advise if my first assumption to go into FTP (or, can I just go into the file manager in cPanel) to obtain the file path.
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  10. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    To put it simply: You are providing the FTP details of your new server on the WordPress Move Settings page of your current installation.. That way your current installation will be able to connect your new server.

    I'm aware of the fact that Remote Backup Path is really confusing, even for the people with some technical knowledge. However, it is a piece of information that depends on the way your server is set up, the way your FTP account is set up etc, so it is not possible to guess what it might be. The easiest way to find it out is the method I suggested in my previous post.

    If it got even more confusing, use the second method I mentioned, which is to trick WordPress Move and transfer backup files manually.

  11. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, so would you be so king to answer my question, i.e., can I locate the Remote Backup Path via File Manager, or do I have to open up an FTP session on the current host to locate that info?
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  12. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Not sure about the way that File Manager on cPanel works, so the safest bet would be to open up an FTP session on the target host (new server) to locate that info.

  13. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    One issue I have w/the old hosting company is that I cannot connect to the FTP.
    I am now looking in File Manager, have drilled down, and in the backup folder, I see the backup which are in this URL:
    public_html/wp-content/plugins/wordpress-move/backup

    Is that the info that goes into the field in WP Move Manager?
    Kevin

  14. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    There is absolutely nothing to do with the FTP details of your current server (old server/ the server you are migrating from). You need to fill in that page with the FTP details of your new server (server you are migrating to).

  15. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, so when I go the migration assistant on the new host it pulls up a whole list of files to select/import. Should't we just be requesting the backup files from the old host?
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  16. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    One other question==The migration manager is requesting an FTP password--Current host or new host? ? Maybe add that to description on the Migration Manager page?
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  17. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Old host sends them to the new host. Not the other way around. After successfully transferring your backup files to your new host, you should open Migration Assistant and select the Restore option.

    Did you read the documentation provided with the plugin?

  18. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    There is none on your home page and the link my developer gave me led me to your wordpress plugin page which had nothing either. I would have read it if it were available.
    So it's the PW for the old host we put into the new host migration manager page, correct?
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  19. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    There is. At the end of this page: http://www.mertyazicioglu.com/projects/wordpress-move/

    You can download WordPress Move from WordPress Plugin Directory or fork/watch it on GitHub. Online documentation is also available.

    Not only the documentation is available online, the plugin itself comes with the documentation. It is under the docs directory.

    Let me try once more:

    1. You start migration on your old host.
    2. Transfer the backup files manually, if the FTP connection failed.
    3. Open the Migration Assistant on your new host and select the Restore option.
    4. Click the button to complete the migration.

    There is no password entrance involved on the new host.

  20. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi; Thanks for that info. I'll drill down and take a look so not to bother you.
    But, at the top of the Migration Assistant page on the new host, it does ask for the FTP password, but does not indicate for the old host or new host.
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  21. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    You need to click the Begin button under the Restore box, when you open the Migration Assistant, not the one under the Migrate box.

  22. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, but the info at the top of the heading says use this if you want to change the domain name. It leads you to the next page which asks you to change the name of your site (without any type of file import/etc.)
    I don't want to do that.
    I want to import/migrate our site.
    See, kind of confusing if you don't read the instructions.
    I will look them over and if I have any other questions, will repost.
    I did see where my developer asked you a question about the plugin Shopp and importing images. If you can let him know what you find out, that would be great as I'm not going to import anything until I know all the data is coming over.
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  23. Mert Yazicioglu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    It does not say anything like that. It says:

    If you wish to do one or more of the following...

    • Complete migrating to this server.
    • Restore backup files listed under the Current Backups section of the Backup Manager.

    Here is a screenshot.

  24. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Nope, you're correct, I had the wrong box.
    So, it goes to where it asks for the files to be transferred.
    I need to read the documentation as the I believe I'm missing a piece of the puzzle, i.e. files have not been transferred and WP Move is not a part of the file structure from which to choose files.
    I also need to know if this plugin will copy the Shopp images over (answer pending on the support forum).
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  25. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK; Can't find the video on GitHub, but read the docs, and went back into WP admin of export host. Drilling down into Migration menu, cannot find WordPress Move directory to choose backup files to export.
    Advice?
    Kevin

  26. kevmel
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    OK, having problems with accessing the correct files. This is one reason why we're moving hosts. TMD is not very WordPress happy. Since we're moving the whole site to the new host, would it be harmful to move ALL the files via migration to the new host? Are there any known plugin conflicts with your plugin and caching programs, etc.?
    Please advise.
    Thanks,
    Kevin

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