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[closed] Spam or not spam, that is the question... (25 posts)

  1. blueamulette
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I have a grand total of 2 spam comments; one is in Russian (which seems to be the favorite spam language!) and the other is from someone whose question was interesting but really ought to be asked HERE at Support, not on the web site of a tech-dummy like me, lol! I'm tempted to respond and tell the person exactly that, but what would happen if I did that? I've been around WP for awhile but I am still not savvy about a lot of things... I'd maybe get all sorts of viruses and junk that would crash my site, I suppose...

  2. If the post is wildly off topic for your blog/post, then just delete it.

    People spam the weirdest things.

  3. blueamulette
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Here is the message I got, it does look spammy, doesn't it? with that url about replicas of Rolexs... Maybe she suspects I'm a nice helpful person who might fall for this. Any road, any one who can't figure out for themselves that WP does indeed use WYSIWYG doesn't belong around here...

    replicarolexsale.co.uk/products_new.html
    xxx@hotmail.com
    213.5.69.106
    Submitted on 2011/06/16 at 2:35 pm

    Hello this is kinda of off topic but I was wondering if blogs use WYSIWYG editors or if you have to manually code with HTML. I’m starting a blog soon but have no coding experience so I wanted to get guidance from someone with experience. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

  4. See this part:

    replicarolexsale.co.uk/products_new.html

    SPAM.

    Kill it.

  5. Loke
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I relate to you, I´ve also gotten all kinds of wierd spam. On my site, for some reason the same phrase (smileys included) was spammed over and over on all off my different posts but every time the poster hade a different ip and the site which the spam linked to was also always different. I don´t get these spammers. Anyways, I solved it by blocking a certain unusual word used in that phrase, so that´s a way of getting around that certain obstacle.

  6. I use Akismet, Cookies for Comments, and Bad Behavior. Pretty much catches it all.

  7. blueamulette
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I use Akismet, but I've never heard of the others. Will implement them directly! Maybe they will let me block more than one word, e.g. "sales" or "products".

  8. True and funny story. I blocked the word 'sex' for a while, cause people were posting a lot of spam with it. Then there was a post where folks started discussing how sexy something was. And EVERYONE'S post was moderated.

    Lesson learned? Don't use 'real' words people use in normal conversations in your mod filters!

  9. Roy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I use Akismet, Bad Behavior, Cookies For Comments and since a few weeks Conditional Captcha. De latter comes up with a captcha image only when Akismet says a comment is spam. The combination of these two have granted me empty spam queues for the last few weeks and thousands and thousands of discarded spam. And yes, I got the WYSIWYG question too.
    Tip, if you wonder if s comment is really a comment, just Google it. If the exact text is found on thousands of websites, you're pretty sure it's spam.

  10. IMO, I refuse to use Captcha.

    My grandmother (who reads my sites and sometimes comments on it) cannot read them due to her glaucoma. After talking to some of my visually disabled friends, I found out how totally unfriendly they were to anyone who isn't 'normal' sighted, and dumped 'em all. Even the plain text ones.

    Also - Most captchas are hacked anyway. Reduce overhead, don't use 'em ;)

  11. blueamulette
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Personally I HATE Captchas!! I have weak eyes myself. And I can only imagine what trouble these puzzle things must be for someone whose eyes are worse than mine... They are just a nuisance anyway. I lost visitors back in the days when I tried to use certain well-known other blog systems which featured the notorious (and built-in) Captchas. They may have had normal eyesight but still complained they couldn't read 'em and so, couldn't get in to merely comment on my posting.

  12. Roy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    That's what I say CONDITIONAL Captcha. Only when Akismet says a comment is spam, then a Captcha image appears. I can only say, the plugin works perfectly. I used to have a few hundred spam comments to delete from several websites each day, now I have none and normal people can comment without the captcha.

  13. s_ha_dum
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Yes, spam. The phrase "this is kinda of off topic" is a pretty big clue as well.

    I am with everyone else about the Captchas. I hate them. They are difficult, even for someone with perfectly good vision. And the audible ones I've tried to listen to are so obscured that I couldn't understand them-- so much for an 'accessible' alternative. And they are not that secure. PHP + Image Magic + Tesseract will get you a long way towards cracking them. Financial motivation to crack them will get you the rest of the way.

  14. Roy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I hate them too, but I hate spam more, so I'm very happy to have ran into a plugin that only presents a captcha image to spammers and not to normal visitors.

  15. Gabe Young
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'm getting about 3k spam a day on my one site so I gave up on false positives. No doubt I lose a few legit comments a day but I just can't commit any more time dealing with that problem. I solely rely on akismet to determine what makes it in.

  16. s_ha_dum
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I hate them too, but I hate spam more, so I'm very happy to have ran into a plugin that only presents a captcha image to spammers and not to normal visitors.

    What is the plugin and how does it make that decision?

    That most Captchas have been cracked makes this a bit of a moot point though.

  17. Roy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    What is the plugin and how does it make that decision?

    Like I said:

    De latter comes up with a captcha image only when Akismet says a comment is spam.

    Only when Akismet says a comment is spam, then a Captcha image appears.

    And noone cracked the Captcha yet (and if they did, they'd still end up in the spam queue), so I'm a happy man.

  18. s_ha_dum
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Oops... didn't see that earlier post of yours, Roy. Sorry. :)

  19. Hrm. I wonder why...

    I mean, I have a grand total of two users, out of a few hundred regulars, who get punted to Akismet, and both are for their own mistakes. So two users out of the thousands of spammers (well, not even a thousand - maybe 30 a week MAX and that's a weird week)? Seems that it's an extra layer that serves little purpose.

    And yes, I do manually skim the spam queue every day or so. If I had a plugin that whitelisted those two users, I'd be happy!

  20. Todd Lahman
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/spam-free-wordpress/

    No CAPTCHA, cookies, or Javascript needed. Blocks all automated spam with zero false positives, and has a blocklist to block manual spam.

  21. Roy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hm, it's a new method. Interesting, but I prefer to have my commenters not have any extra 'work'. This in combination with the Conditional Captcha method (so, only a password when it's possibly spam) would be quite something.

  22. Todd Lahman
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Displaying the password field only if something is possibly spam means there will be false positives, which means the same comments marked as spam before would still be marked as spam. In other words, it would be no different than anything else available right now.

    With Spam Free WordPress either the password entered by a human is correct or not. No false positives. No other spam plugins needed, not even Akismet.

  23. It's an interesting concept. Though Todd, you linked to it once ;) Now you're bordering on spamming (or beating us over the head). Trust folks to read and think.

    If people don't want their users to do extra work, even if it means entering a password for a post, then they don't :) You gotta accept that and move on.

  24. Todd Lahman
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    If you read Roy's comments above, he says he is currently using 4 different plugins to combat comment spam. Ipstenu, you claim to be using 3 plugins. I have been using only one since September of 2007.

    If I read Roy's comment correctly he suggested combining the approach used in Spam Free WordPress with Conditional Captcha, so I attempted to point out this would sour the effectiveness of Spam Free WordPress.

    I utilized the link feature in replying the second time to encourage Roy to try the plugin, before making suggestions on how it should work without saying that explicitly.

    Your comment about accepting other's choices and moving on was a bit harsh. I thought this forum was to help people, not funnel them into using only the three Automattic plugins mentioned twice on this page: Akismet, Cookies for Comments, and Bad Behavior, so now three times.

    I do realize you (Ipstenu) mentioned refusing to use CAPTCHA, so my concept probably rubs you the wrong way. That is no reason to backhand me with a :).

    To leave a comment on WordPress a human has to type in a username and a password. In the real world readers do not object to using only a password they can read while remaining anonymous, especially when it saves them from having to signup then sign in to an account on that blog just to leave a comment.

    If it were true that having to type in a password would stop comments, no one would be using this WordPress forum.

  25. I just meant linking to your plugin in two sequentuial posts was a bit much, that's all, Todd. Don't use WP.org forums to advertise/sell/pitch your plugins, please.

    [deleted what I wrote]

    The ORIGINAL post was 'Is this spam'.

    That was answered. This is closed.

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