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Spaces removed after punctuation (23 posts)

  1. hannahlevbarg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'm using the latest Atahualpa release (3.6.7) on the latest WP release for my client http://www.miningtheunconscious.org.

    Despite all looking well in both the code and visual editor, the live site is removing or not displaying the spaces following commas, ampersands and so on, including in the navigation bar and page title (words that are typed in, not pasted from client copy).

    I can't figure out why or how to fix it (for instance, retyping copy directly into the code view - not pasting; attempting to add extra spaces, etc..

    As ever, the code view in WP definitely doesn't show all code. I feel hamstrung! Anyone else encounter this and/or know the fix for it? I'm also checking at the ATahualpa site.

  2. nrepair
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Same thing here. Also, my tag cloud widget isn't working correctly. You can see it on my site.

  3. hannahlevbarg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    What a pain - and no other replies - I would think this would be a pretty major issue... Tried to sign up for the Atahualpa forums but couldn't get any access to actually POST anything.

  4. stylishjm
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    No idea unfortunatly, but for the time being, you can simply go into code view and add   after each comma. Very tedious but works.

    You can also copy all text into a word processor such as Microsoft Word or Notepad++, and use the search & replace all by replacing , with ,  then pasting it back, in code view saving some time & hassle.

  5. hannahlevbarg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Yeah, exactly, I'm not remotely interested in coding hard spaces through a whole site, AND this will NOT be useful for the Atahualpa footer text and any other automatically generated content. Could do the search and replace, but jeez, this is a really popular theme, and flexible, and I would THINK they would either know the fix for this new release or get on it really fast - it's a really bad one! Doesn't render the site useless, but sure makes the designer look like di*k.

    I have managed to post in a hopefully appropriate thread over at Bytesforall and will update here, nrepair, if I get any joy from them (or otherwise).

  6. hannahlevbarg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Oh, and nrepair, I was just wondering, too, what your site is?

  7. kmessinger
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I use Atahualpa and have no problem. It is not them or WordPress.

    First, if anyone is pasting from word forget it. Second, disable all plugins, switch to the twentyten theme. This will eliminate theme, plugin conflicts. Then add each back until it breaks.

    If there is a problem with the editor, 99.99% of the time it is a javascript error. Try the above and report back with URL's.

  8. cjhmdm
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    kmessinger, it is indeed an issue with the actual theme, see below.

  9. cjhmdm
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    edit css.php and change lines 2944-2951 from

    if ( $bfa_ata['css_compress'] == "Yes" AND
    !( isset($bfa_ata_debug) AND $bfa_ata['allow_debug'] == "Yes" ) ) {
    	ob_end_flush();
    }
    if ( isset($bfa_ata_preview) OR $bfa_ata['css_external'] == "Inline" OR
    ( isset($bfa_ata_debug) AND $bfa_ata['allow_debug'] == "Yes" ) ) {
    	echo "</style>\n";
    }

    to

    if ( $bfa_ata['css_compress'] == "Yes" AND
    !($bfa_ata_debug==1 AND $bfa_ata['allow_debug'] == "Yes" ) ) {
    	ob_end_flush();
    }
    if ( isset($bfa_ata_preview) OR $bfa_ata['css_external'] == "Inline" OR
    ($bfa_ata_debug==1 AND $bfa_ata['allow_debug'] == "Yes" ) ) {
    	echo "</style>\n";
    }

    Taken from: http://forum.bytesforall.com/showthread.php?t=14143

  10. alchymyth
    The Sweeper & Moderator
    Posted 3 years ago #

    are you using some sort of compression option?

    your html code is all in one very long line...

    this looks related:
    http://forum.bytesforall.com/showthread.php?t=14143

    (however, i didn't follow the thread to see if it offers a solution ...)

  11. hannahlevbarg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    thanks for the notes, chjmdm & alchymyth, I will follow that up and see if the CSS fixes it. I thought of looking through their code, but honestly, the idea of finding the one line that might be causing this was not really within my abilities for working hours, ha.

    And for what it's worth, I either retype, or run through a .txt file in Dreamweaver or Notepad - and clean up there - any Word copy I get from clients. And this was broken in this manner from step 1 install, with only clean WP install + new activation of theme and minimal text (you could tell, because navigation titled "SOMETHING & SOMETHING ELSE" would come out looking like "SOMETHING &SOMETHINGELSE").

    Very hopeful this will cure it, and will also see what comes back from the BFA forum - thanks all!

  12. kmessinger
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 3 years ago #

    The bfa forum has this note added to 3.6.7

    UPDATE: Atahualpa 3.6.7 with working custom widget areas, everything up to post #7 taken care of

    Since the issue above was post 1, downloading and installing the latest build should fix the problem.

    And to whomever - thanks for the attempt at editing. I appreciate the frustration we all feel from time to time.

  13. hannahlevbarg
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    SUCCESS! And one possibly useful final note:

    I followed the fix instructions in the css.php file (above and from original thread in bfa forum), and got bad and weird results - namely removed all the styles! - and when I switched it back (I combed over my syntax very carefully and tried this all several times, both via DreamWeaver upload and via the editor in WP), the site displayed a blank page. Don't know if there's some issue I'm missing on my local end, but it just wasn't working.

    So, I downloaded the file offered at the end of that BFA post - css.php.zip, and first erased then replaced the css.php file with the new one, no opening or editing, and all is VERY WELL now. Use the repaired file they're offering if you have any issues doing the simple css test repair.

    Thanks to all for your input.

  14. aLan "Lan" Tait
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    There are THREE bugs in Altahualpa 3.6.7 - you may want to look at these two pages and fix them all...

    http://alantait.net/atahualpa/atahualpa-easy-header-fix-downloads/
    http://alantait.net/2011/06/09/atahualpa-easy-header-fix/

    ALL sites should install BUGFIX 367-01 and BUGFIX 367-02

    Single sites may install the EASY HEADER FIX or BUGFIX 367-03 but not both.

    MultiSites and Multi Networks should install the EASY HEADER FIX and NOT install BUGFIX 367-03

  15. kanga
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    This is helpful (if I can figure out how to make the changes), but here is the strange thing.

    I called my hosting company last night and they reverted my site back to where it was before I updated to Atahualpa's new version. It took care of the fact that my favicon had reverted to the original that came w/ atahualpa, but the punctuation issues remain.

    Why would that be? I am going to see if they can make it go away again by going back further, but this makes not sense.

    Any ideas as to why this would not have fixed it?

  16. Maison Cupcake
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I have had this problem on 3 atahualpa sites. Today I tried the fix editing the css.php file and it was both easy and successful.

    Oddly, the method that worked for someone above replacing the file with downloadable one didn't work for me yet she'd had problems editing the existing file.

    So it looks like both methods can work. Really pleased to have this sorted out.

  17. kanga
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Does anyone know if this bug has been cleared up on Atahualpa yet? I would like to update but am scared to do so for fear that I will have this problem again.

    Thanks!

  18. Maison Cupcake
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    The latest (3.6.7) version of atahualpa still has the bug but if you know where to locate the css.php file on your server, it was a simple cut and paste job to update it. I have a dummy version of my blog on a subdomain for testing stuff out and I tried it there first - admittedly I'd have been terrified to do it to my main blog straight off but once I'd seen it work ok on 2 other subdomains of test sites I knew it was ok. I'd never edited any of my back end files before!

  19. kanga
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thank you SO much for replying! I can probably figure it out w/ my hosting company. I guess I should ask them about the dummy version of my blog as well? I didn't know you could do that. If you have a moment, do you have tips for either of these? (subdomain dummy and if my hosting co would know about the css.php file?) And have you thought about moving to a paid theme? I have heard that there might be better service on those. Thanks in advance!

  20. Maison Cupcake
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Just create another site on a subdomain (assuming your hosting package lets you) and build it with same theme, plug-ins etc. It only needs a couple of posts of content for you to see how various updates will affect layout etc. Doing this lets you try out complicated stuff without being scared you'll break the main site!

  21. aLan "Lan" Tait
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi Cupcake, I like your idea, I am going to pass it along to my students as it is simple and straight forward solution.

    The one I use is to have two copies of the them. For example if you have one folder called atahualpa you can have another folder called atahualpa-test

    Load atahualpa-test with what you want to test and switch theames to the test. If it doesn't work, switch back in a second and you have lost nothing. You can even run on the test while modifying your main theme.

    However, for building with a complex theme, I like your idea better, as this could take days... or you may want to build a whole new layout! Great idea Cupcake!

  22. aLan "Lan" Tait
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I have a (slightly off topic) question for the people following this thread...

    Atahualpa was originally designed in the days before automatic updates. Anyone who has built an Atahualpa site with custom headers, custom logos, custom favicons or custom functions, knows doing an automatic update is a nightmare you will not forget! Likewise the them dev team is working hard on a new PAID theme, so real updates like non FTP sites (upload images via WP Image Uploader) or multi-sites or automatic updates or custom functions are all in the new theme you need to pay for, the old theme is just basically maintained with new versions of WordPress, but it is still very very powerful.

    There are a group of developers "out there" (myself included) that have real solutions for all this and extra bells and whistles too! We have file sharing etc, and among ourselves we have hundreds of WordPress Blogs. In fact, among ourselves, we joke about a
    Super-Atahualpa. Recently it has been suggested that we actually release this... Super-Atahualpa! Of course we would find a good new name to avoid confusion name... Right now it is called "To Code!"

    The idea is that we would keep it current, any patches would added to a point release and you could fix it with just an automatic update...

    We just wonder if anyone would like a FREE theme as a fork of Atahualpa that was designed to be easier to use?

    The main goal would be an expanded Theme, more features, and easier to use for newbies and people with less experience. No "patching" (my wife is afraid "to code" as she calls installing a patch or bug fix).

    Plus, being a cooperative theme (fork) it would allow many new features,from different programmers, tried and true - and tested too!

    So give me a yea or nay... should we make a new free and cooperative fork of Atahualpa, easier for people to use that have little coding experience, and with expanded features and abilities?

    Thanks for you time... you opinion matters to us. If we make this new them or not is really in your hands... We are listening. Remember this code is already written for us... I personally have it working on over 3 dozen sites. With over 40 years of writing code, we do it easy, should we share with you so this is easy for you too?

    Want to vote on this? Go here...

    http://alantait.net/2011/07/31/to-code-the-new-atahualpa-wordpress-theme/

  23. RebeccaInMI
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    I'd just like to say thanks to cjhmdm and alchymyth for passing along the solution from that other forum. It worked for me!

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