sharing video files in social network sites

Resolved fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

hello,

I would like some help to understand some concepts of your plugin and the possibility of using it in some situations.

As far as I understood, I will be able to post videos from my wordpress web site to social sites with the pro version of your plugin, right? The free version doesnt support this, right?

In my site I will have a page with a lot of video links that I would like to be able to share. As far as I understand I need some ogg tags in the page to share each video (that are created by your plugin, right?). However, because the page as many video links, how would be possible to share each one, because each one would need a set of specific ogg tags? Does your plugin helps on this?

thank you,

fwu

https://wordpress.org/plugins/nextgen-facebook/

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Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

Facebook will read the meta tags for a webpage, and embed a video if those meta tags provide information about a video. Facebook does NOT embed more than ONE video, even if the meta tags contain multiple links to videos. Posts on Facebook include one video, or one image, no more.

To answer your question, yes, the Pro version supports a variety of embedded video sources. And no, you cannot share “parts” of a webpage — you need to share a webpage URL. You *could* share the direct URL to an image or video, but then you loose the relation to your webpage, and any potential clicks to that webpage (since the shared URL is to the media, and not an HTML webpage). You also can’t add meta tags to an image or video file, so you cannot describe it for the social websites. In the end, sharing a direct medial URL is like sharing an anonymous piece of media.

js.

Thread Starter fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

hello,

Thank you for your answer.

But I have additional details to say.

when you say: ” In the end, sharing a direct medial URL is like sharing an anonymous piece of media.”. In my opinion that is not completely true, because if the video/image has your url or domain embeded you still get some advantage.

But I understand your point about loosing information about the video/image, and so the importance of having a page with those tags to describe the media.

But I still have the same problem: in a page with 10 video links, how can I put a share button to each of them so that i can embed it in facebook when a user want to share it. Please note that I want to embed them individually, and not many at the same time.

The concern here is that all the video files are presented in the same html page, so I will have only one set of ogg tags. If we could have 10 sets and set each to each videos my problem was solved 🙂

But as far as I understand, we cant because the javaAPI of facebook and similar social networks are only prepare to look for a set in the same page.

So, that is why I was asking you if your plugin would solve this. This is mainly scripting, so an inteligence inside a plugin could do this.

I dont know if I explained my goals clearly, but what Im looking for makes sense. Sometimes we have more than a video or a link to a video in the same page, and to see that video you just point to the video file, so you will not have a page to each video where you can set the ogg tags. In such cases we should be able to embed videos in social networks.

An option would be to point each share button to a php page that would dynamically generate the correct ogg tags set for that specific video associated with that specific button. This way would be possible to have a lot of video links in the same page and embed the video of each one (independetly to each video, of course). I was expecting that your plugin would make this easier… or could make in the future 🙂

What you think about that? Any other option?

thank you,

fwu

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

As I said previously, you can include as many meta tags as you want, but Facebook will only post ONE video.

ONE webpage URL equals ONE video on Facebook.

This is not a limitation of this plugin, but a limitation of Facebook.

js.

Thread Starter fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

hello again,

yes, I understood that. So, if i have 10 links to ten videos in the same page, I cant use that page to embed the videos. I understand that, and that is why Im looking to a solution to this problem.

And my solution would be to point the share button to a php page with intelligence to generate ogg tags to that specific video.

However, and that is what im trying to understand in your plugin, the button of your plugin will tell facebook that the page of the video is the one where the button is placed, right? And I want to understand if I can set that url, because I cant use the page where the share button and the video links are for the reason we already know.

thank you,

fwu

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

To provide 10 different videos to Facebook, you should create 10 different posts/pages, each with it’s own video.

The sharing buttons will share either the current webpage, or the current post within an index. It sounds like instead of creating a page with 10 videos, you should create an index with 10 posts, each with it’s own video, and each with it’s own buttons.

So, to summarize, you cannot do what you want on ONE page, but you can do it on an index webpage (categories, tags, etc.).

I’m sure there are also plugins that provide shortcodes to include posts/pages within a single page, so you could probably look at those as possible solution as well.

js.

Thread Starter fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

hello,

An example of my page would be this: a list of video links group by topic:

—— Page begin ————-
Topic 1: XXXXXXX
Video name (link1) share_butoon1
Video name (link2) share_butoon2
Video name (link3) share_butoon3
Video name (linkN) share_butoonN

Topic N: XXXXXXX
Video name (link1) share_butoon1
Video name (link2) share_butoon2
Video name (link3) share_butoon3
Video name (linkN) share_butoonN
—– end page ————–

So my pages wil have a list of video links, so that a user can click and see each video without navigating to other pages (and without loosing the context page).

If the user wants to share, for instance, video 3 from topic2, he would have to click the associated share button. no problem with that, and I believe you already understood my goal.

So each link (it could be an embeded video instad of a link, but for this discussion, the problem would be the same) has an associated share button.

what I dont understand is the concept of an 2index page”. what you mean about that? any example? maybe Im not getting something…

thank you again,

fwu

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

I can explain the technical aspects, but you will have to put those together yourself into whatever format you require.

An example “index” type webpage would be the home page of a blog (with multiple posts), or a categories page, tags page, etc. Each post on an index webpage can have it’s own buttons.

js.

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

BTW, you could also try using the NGFB shortcode.

http://surniaulula.com/codex/plugins/nextgen-facebook/notes/shortcodes/

js.

Thread Starter fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

hello,

Please explain me the technical aspects. Is this an Index type page? http://vibethemes.com/envato/wplms/blog/

I look at the code and the different posts are only div containers, so i dont see how I can put different sets of ogg tags there.

What I believe would work would be using iframes, one for each video link. Is this what you are talking about? So, each link and button would be inside its own page. But this seems to complex to generate and maintain.

If not, please let me know what html code an index type page would have, so that I can understand.

A good example of what I want is this page: http://vibethemes.com/envato/wplms/course/software-training/?action=curriculum

In this page you have a lot of topics inside each section. In front of each topic I would like to have a share button to share the video in the link of each topic.

In the example, when you click in each topic you open the topic page, however, instead of open a page, my link would open the video in the same page, because I dont want the users to have so many effort to see all the videos. I rather let them open the videos in the main page.

So you would have many links in the same page. Right now, I can only imagine a share button pointing to another page dynamically generated with the right “og” set tags. but your are talking in another option… an Index type page, that Im trying to understand what it is.

thank you again,

fwu

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

I’ve explained the technical details, it’s up to you, or a theme developer, to put that information to use. I do not design websites or themes.

Here are examples of index type webpages that contain many posts:

http://surniaulula.com/
http://surniaulula.com/tag/wordpress-tag/
http://surniaulula.com/category/application/wordpress/

I don’t use social sharing buttons on my own site, but buttons could appear bellow the summary of each post. See the “NGFB -> Buttons -> Show Button in: Content” (or Excerpt) option to enable buttons in post content and/or excerpts.

Also consider the shortcode option I provided (this would seem the easiest solution).

I do not participate in the design or coding of websites or themes. If you have specific questions about the options of NGFB, please see the FAQ and Notes, or start a new thread specifically about NGFB, not website design issues.

Thanks,

js.

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

BTW, you may also want to take a look at something like this:

http://wordpress.org/plugins/page-in-page/

js.

Thread Starter fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

hello,

In your examples, each post summary has a “continue reading” button. You are saying to put the share buttons next to each of them, right?

Looking to the html code, these summaries are created with div sections. So, where would I put a set of og tags for each post summary? That is my point. the page is always just one, so I can’t just set an og tag for each of them.

unless you are saying this will work, because the share button would point to the link where the “continue reading” is pointin to. But if this is your goal, then a “dummy” php page to dynamically generate a target page would make more sense to me, because I would need to create each page manually.

Please tell me if this was your point of view, because I would like to know that Im exploring all the possible ways.

Regarding the shortcode option, as far as I understood, they will share content with a direct link to the content, right? So in this option we have the same result you pointed earlier in this conversation: some information will not pass to facebook. Am I seeing this right?

thank you,

fwu

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

You need to create a page for each video, so the URL to that page can be shared.

The shortcode supports a url parameter you can use to share the URL of the individual video pages.

You need to assemble all those pages into a single index page. Either as a category, tags, etc. index, or using a plugin like “Page in Page”.

js.

Thread Starter fwu
(@fwu)

9 years, 10 months ago

ok, I understand your point of view now. I will always need a page for each video.

I will look at that and see how may I get benefits with your plugin.

thank you,

fwu

Plugin Author JS Morisset
(@jsmoriss)

9 years, 10 months ago

Np. Feel free to leave a positive review. 😉 http://wordpress.org/support/view/plugin-reviews/nextgen-facebook#postform

Thanks,

js.

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