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Screw MT, look at Textpattern (18 posts)

  1. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    A lot of people have been asking (myself included) for WP to be more MT like, in terms of how certain features are implemented. Well, I have been spending some time playing around with Textpattern and MT is definatelly not the package WP should be "borrowing" ideas from:
    1) Textile integrated with two preview modes, which work very well.
    2) Textpattern's "sections" looks like the most viable solution to WP lack of static pages. It would also address multiple category issues and only view one category per page questions. Each section can have it's own look, layout etc.
    3) Individual entry has a different template from the main page. I have found a way around this, but it does not work properly and is not a very elegant.
    4) CSS editor, which is very nice indeed.
    5) Ability to copy a particular template/file to create a copy of it that could be used as a template for a different section.
    6) Auto-closing of comments (1week - 6 weeks).
    7) Forms (templated), while I prefer to use PHP directly ... use of tags elimites a lot of headaches when upgrading etc., since tags stay the same even if call syntax changes.
    8) Help is really well done.

  2. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Firstly, my this thread is not meant to start a flame war, but is merely a set of suggestions on where WP should be moving in my opinion.
    Secondly, I've made WP static pages myself. So you are right it can be easily done, but mod_rewrite is not "easy" and definately not very elegant. Textpattern handles this from within w/o even making users upload a file or ssh to the server.

  3. charle97
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    i guess it depends on how one designs templates. i follow the model that i used with mt by separating a page into panels. then, within those panels, i use include statements to pull in stuff from other files that control the content of each section in the panel. if i ever need to change a section, all i need to do is edit a particular file without touching the main templates.

  4. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    http://wordpress.org/support/3/4721 -type requests is something to think about.

  5. charle97
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    i can see ways of accomplishing what he wants in 1.2 with parent and child categories.

  6. WillM
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Textpattern is neat, but its more of a CMS than a straightforward blogtool. A lot of the people wanting to use WordPress as a CMS might be better off with Textpattern - it would save them a lot of hacking - but I just want to blog so WordPress is the better tool for me. The only features in that list which might be useful in WordPress are the post preview and the comments auto-close, and I think there are already hacks for them anyway.

  7. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I'll agree with Will's summary. TXP fro CMS, WP fro blog. Apart from that i like TXP's section/category options.

  8. wujimon
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    Just curious, what's the main difference between a CMS and a blog?

  9. TechGnome
    Moderator
    Posted 10 years ago #

    A CMS is a Content Management System.... while a blog is a general purpose journaling system. CMS's tend to be much more indepth and has more features. Doesn't make them better, just different. They (CMS's) tend to have alls kinds of calendars, downloads, articles, forums.... something that runs Yahoo! or Lycos could be called a CMS. PostNUKE, XOOPS, and their like are prime examples. They are general purpose.
    Bolg software is more specialized, and lighter-weight. They also tend to be light weight.
    The decision of blog vs CMS should be based on your needs.
    TG

  10. shade
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    honestly, i'd prefer wp's editor. txp's css editor sucks.

  11. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    wordpress css editor is just a text box with a save button.
    how can txp beat that at anything?

  12. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    ?
    Textpattern also has "just a text box with a save button" - same as WP.
    In addition Textpattern has a handy css editor (a form) to quickly change the css attributes without searching thru, editing & formatting the raw code.

  13. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    so how come "txp's css editor sucks."! if it does a bit better than WP :O)

  14. Anonymous
    Unregistered
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I don't know, maybe shades can explain - but textpattern does have the same css textbox & save approach as WordPress. 'Sucks' isn't very informative is it?
    Every one has their preferences. I have tried drupal, mambo, wp, txp and others and have settled on WP for traditional blogs & Textpattern for CMS & styled-sections.

  15. WillM
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    The CSS editing form in Textpattern with all the separate textboxes is kind of dumb, but its not aimed at us, its aimed at people who know nothing about CSS and just want to fiddle with the default ;)
    I can't understand why anyone would edit CSS online anyway, what's wrong with Notepad and FTP?

  16. randybrown
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    "... what's wrong with Notepad ...?"
    Where do I start? ;-)
    <rb>

  17. OperaManiac
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    lets say you are sitting on a friend's computer who is dumb (happens with me a lot)!
    lets say you are sitting in a cyber cafe!
    lets say you are sitting in your office with FTP access blocked!
    I love the power to update files online :)

  18. nsxpower
    Member
    Posted 10 years ago #

    I never use FTP to upload an updated CSS or index.php, that takes too long and is inefficient. Copy/paste is much faster. Quick chages to CSS/index.php I do online through the textbox w/o copying the whole thing into my editor of choice etc.
    How can one texbox w/ a save button "suck" any more than another textbox w/ a save button? That said, TXP has a CSS editor, which is handy, has a nice way to visualize the structure and would be very helpfull to a lot of users.
    Notepad ... I don't know where to begin, but try EditPlus for Windows, which has such features like OMG! PHP/CSS/XTML syntax highlighting.
    "Syntax highlighting is for n00bs, 31337 coderz uze Notepad"
    --- Anonymous

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