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[resolved] Safari Issues & WordPress (42 posts)

  1. oseary
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I've googled the heck outta my issue and haven't found anyone else with the same issue... I'm a Mac user who has a WordPress 2.2 site (pesosforpenguins.com) and I recently decided to test out Safari 3. It's sposed to be faster and blah blah so I gave it a go.

    I can see my site fine, login to it without issue, and make new posts. However, the line breaks (pressing enter) never seem to "stick" when pressing "publish." Am I missing something in either Safari or my WP configuration?

    Everything works great in Fireyferret and IE (on a PC), just not in Safari.

    Anyone else had this issue, or can anyone lead any guidance? An example of my issue can be seen at this post (as it's all one massive paragraph) :

    http://www.pesosforpenguins.com/2007/06/12/safari-for-mac-beta/

    Thanks!!

  2. oseary
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    Bump?

  3. breakingball
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I see what you're talking about with Safari 3. I also see that when I switch from the Visual editor to the Code editor, no code appears.

    Not only that, turning off the Visual editor, and returning to edit line breaks into a post, the line breaks stick after the post is saved, but, turning the Visual editor back on and going back to edit and save the same post removes the line breaks again!

    Last, the extra buttons on the Visual editor don't appear when I press Control-V as they had in Safari 2.x since WP 2.2.

    If you're looking for guidance, I'd say forget about using the Visual editor in Safari 3 beta, and if you must use Safari to create or edit posts or other WP files, then revert to Safari 2.

  4. oseary
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I'm not necessarily hung up on Safari, I wanted to test it to see if it'd be a viable switch from FF, since it is faster. However since I've tried it, I haven't really liked it all that much... Yea it's faster, but I can't do the same things with tabs that I can with fireyferret, and a few other things grind my gears with it as well...

    I will try some things with Safari 2, but I was really trying to narrow it down to a Safari issue, or a WP issue.

    It seems Safari related, right?

  5. gothickmatt
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I've just tripped over this issue, and yes, it definitely seems Safari related (which is a shame, as everything else I've found in Safari 3 was pretty much an improvement over Safari 2.) Still, it is a beta, after all. And I can always use Firefox or MarsEdit or whatever when I want to post for now.

  6. diggnationwatchcom
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    The Gecko rendering engine is buggy in Mac OS X 10.5, which is what I'm running.

    I'd REALLY love to be able to use Safari, because WebKit looks great, although it looks like there won't be any further support for this.

  7. oseary
    Member
    Posted 7 years ago #

    I've also tried the newest beta, and the issue isn't fixed either. What surprises me most of all, is the lack of results when I Googled it. It makes me feel CRRRAZZY, or just realizing that no one really likes Safari, and everyone just uses Fireyferret. lol

  8. charanis
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I can confirm - Safari 3.0 is editor challenged. I can use some of the features but inserting an image link does nothing. Even editing in the code view doesn't work as you go back and your changes are gone.

    What's the plan - not sure if there is another post. I wanted my kids to be able to update their page and I have "control" over where they go with Safari, I don't want to give them Firefox. Maybe i'll try bumpercar.

  9. joel01
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I don't know if the issue is with Safari or changes that have been made by the WordPress team. If you go to TinyMCE's demo page the editor seems to work fine, paragraphs aren't joined together.

    Does anyone know of a small hack that could be applied to TinyMCE in WordPress - not to give it more functionality but simply to fix the paragraph issue in Safari? I know of a plugin you can install but it offers too many extra options for my (or my client's) liking.

  10. malagent
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I'm sick of Firefox, for whatever reason it's just not happy on my Mac - Ever. And the interface needs some polish.

    Safari 3 , on the other hand is wonderful - except for the editor with WP 2.2

    Problem 1: Strips line breaks when saving, or switching between visual and code view.
    Problem 2: Can't upload images - App quits when I try. But who cares, who needs Images?

    Problems occurs under Mac OS 10.4.10 (and now (10.5), I have Safari 3 on Windows as well and I will try it to see if it occurs there as well.

    I am in desperate need of a fix for this and I am getting fed up with switching to FF just to reformat the post I just finished writing.

  11. jwh
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Is there anyway to turn the visual editor off like it is in Safari 2?

    Thanks

  12. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I still cannot post via Safari to my WP blog... I'm on Leopard, yet line breaks are never recognized.

    What the heck do I need to do?!

  13. erikdhansen
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    If you go to Users->Your Profile, you can turn off the Visual Editor. You're limited to writing your posts in HTML, which is definitely not optimal, but the damn WYSIWYG editor won't strip out your formatting anymore.

    I'd really, really like to see this fixed, wherever it needs to be (sick of reading flame wars back and forth about who's at fault) since starting up Firefox everytime I want to post, when I've already got Safari open is a PITA.

  14. snl
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Just wanted to bump this thread. It's quite an annoying distraction, especially on lengthy posts, to realize you've done away with all paragraphs just because you forgot to switch to Firefox. Please fix.

  15. Hozay
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I'm a relatively junior WordPress users, but I've set up four blogs so far and this bug has been driving me nuts. I've had success using Dean's FCKEditor in Firefox, but I don't care for Firefox and it's a pain to run two browsers when Safari 3 is so capable.

    At last, it would appear that the TinyMCE folks are getting serious about us Safari fans. Check out the specs of their upcoming version: http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=8959

    About 2/3 of the way down the list you'll see this: Added new Safari plugin, fixes lots compatibility of issues with Safari 3.x.

    Good news.

    Hozay

  16. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I hope so... I love the overall speed of Safari, as I've only used it a few times, due to its incompatibility with WP.

    However, does the new TinyMCE plugin go into the WordPress install? i.e. the new TinyMCE plugin will be built in to the new WordPress install (2.3/?), or will it have/need to be downloaded and installed separately?

    I guess we all just have to keep our fingers crossed that the issue will be resolved... at some point in time.

  17. RDI
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Yes - this is a REAL problem ... talk about incompatibility !!!

    This one is really surprising ...

  18. sussox
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Any movement on this subject?

  19. turkeysandwich
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I just got back from a vacation and noticed the same thing. I, too, thought I was crazy. I got the Safari 3 in a Mac software upgrade. It's very annoying and no one seems to know what to do to fix it.

    This sucks!

  20. turkeysandwich
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    BUMP for HELP

  21. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Hey Turkey... We've been waiting on support for a very long time. It isn't something that you can tweak to fix (as we understand it)... It's a flaw with Safari.

    If you look up above, I bumped it way back when I started this thread. There is no fix--yet.

  22. JohnL
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Makes me glad I don't use the dang editor. But, I see progress on the horizon:

    http://tinymce.moxiecode.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=9265

  23. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I doubt that it will solve our issue... Nothing mentioned in the release notes about Safari and/or line/paragraph breaks.

    They "say" they support Safari 3, due to it having a portion of the "market share," however I've found it only truly works without issue on IE & Fireyferret.

    We'll see if it fixes it, but I'm not holding my breath.

    There are some ways to supposedly fixing it, however fixing the paragraph/line break glitch causes other glitches.

    I simply want it to work so that I can use Safari 100% of the time. I love its speed, but hate that I would have to switch over to FF just to post... I prefer the all-in-one solution.

  24. webDressing
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    LOL :) So this is the problem? We were trying to figure out why we were (are) having SO MANY issues with the WYSIWYG editor in wordpress. We even wrote our post out in a HTML editor to fix all of the problems but as soon as we pasted it back in and clicked 'Save' we were right back at square one :( It was getting SO frustrating that we were actually thinking of switching away from wordpress to another type of blog software. Glad we found this thread. I am PRAYING that wordpress fixes this problem soon! I'm not sold that it's a Safari issue because no other WYSIWYG editor is having any problems on Safari 3.0, including the one that we use to manage all of our vB forums. I guess we could use FF temporarily, but if this issue continues much longer it's going to be bye-bye wordpress, as it took us 40 minutes to post a simple 5 minute page just to get it to look right. Fingers crossed that something gets fixed soon!

  25. wilcosworld
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Although not an answer- a workaround.

    Find your 'tiny_mce.js'' file, it is in 'wp-includes/js/tinymce/tiny_mce.js'

    Line 7572, you need to change:

    // if ((tinyMCE.isGecko || tinyMCE.isOpera || tinyMCE.isSafari) && tinyMCE.settings.force_p_newlines && e.keyCode == 13 && !e.shiftKey) {

    to:

    if ((tinyMCE.isGecko || tinyMCE.isOpera) && tinyMCE.settings.force_p_newlines && e.keyCode == 13 && !e.shiftKey) {

    (Edited from: http://ijneb.com/archives/2007/10/13/safari-3-wordpress-2-tinymce-and-paragraphs/)

  26. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    @Webdressing... It actually seems to be more of a TinyMCE and Safari issue. TinyMCE is coded into WP as the WYSIWYG editor (I think). It's a pain, I know! :-)

    @WilcosWorld... Thanks for that... I have no line 7572 in my tiny_mce.js file. Thanks for it though.

  27. clatterbox
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    Yes, the problem emerged with the latest Safari update (3.0.4).

    Visual and Code editor does not function correctly, and does not retain line break or paragraph tags. A real pain in the bum.

    Firefox seems to work fine, so I've switched to that for editing WordPress, and now ignore software updates from Apple for at least a month.

  28. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    @clatterbox, it seems to me that it has been going on since Safari 3 was even in the Beta stage. At least, that's how I've experienced it with my Mac.

    Today I tried it after the latest security updates were released to Safari (and other apps), but was blown back by what occurred. Line breaks etc. function 100% fine in the comments section, but not inside of the general post writer.

    I am assuming this is because the comment box (unless otherwise modified to do so) doesn't utilize the TinyMCE coding, that is present in the post creator.

    Hopefully, an update is near, but I do not hold my breath.

  29. TheMacGuy08
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    This appears to be caused by browser specific hacks for Safari. If you have the Safari debug menu enabled you can change your User Agent to Firefox to correct the problem. So for the record it was something Apple fixed in Safari that broke a hack. WordPress needs to catch up.

  30. oseary
    Member
    Posted 6 years ago #

    I can confirm that this does work... But when we change our "user agent" to FF, do we still get the native speed of Safari?

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