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[closed] Registration is a spam magnet (17 posts)

  1. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    [Please do not post in uppercase & shout at us. Post title de-capped.]

    At some point wordpress developers need to look at the registration module and figure out a way to clamp down whatever it is that spammers are using to register even after I add reCapcha and several other additional plugins.

    Surely this is a known issue - I cannot believe you people in SF sit in Starbucks all day watching to see which friends wander in from Google, Apple or Facebook. Time to get to work.

    WordPress has become defacto standard now, so now it is a mainstream product with high expectations from customers who actually believed us web developers who recommended it, recommended YOUR product.

    Get to work and fix this spam registration issue.

  2. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I cannot believe you people in SF

    Sorry? Who? Where? WordPress is free software created by an international community of unpaid developers. If you would like to join that community and contribute a patch or some suggestions, we'd love to hear them.

  3. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'll say it again, the registration module is a SPAM MAGNET.

    It's not up to every user to fix the software. I am not a wordpress software coder. I am someone who implements the software.

    I am bringing to your attention a problem, Fix it.

  4. Andrew
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It's not your place to tell people what to do with their free time.

    See being "mod watched".

  5. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    You think I'm the first person to bring this up? Surely your forums are rife with people looking for a solution.

    And you think it's not frustrating having to wade through dozens of plugins (with poor descriptions and the weakness of the plugin search facility) to find a suitable plugin to fix that which should not be inherently broken in the software to begin with.

    If I wrote software that has this big of an issue, I would be on it right away.

    I'd fix the admin panel to offer clearer choices. I'd have some sort of captcha system built in to begin with, and a more refined registration system.

  6. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Surely your forums are rife with people looking for a solution.

    Not especially, no.

    Surely your forums are rife with people looking for a solution.

    As I said previously, you are more than welcome to contribute patches or suggestions but, right now, your manner is bordering on downright offensive and, as such, some of your posts have been removed as they are considered to be detrimental to the larger community.

    As for captchas - are you serious? Most captchas are totally useless whilst those that still work now will be broken shortly. Can I suggest that you do some more research on the subject? http://caca.zoy.org/wiki/PWNtcha would probably be a good place to start,

  7. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Oh good I wasted my time with capchas. Thanks for the update. Glad those are still in the plugins database for me to waste my time with.

    I'm not going to go do research that the coders of the software should already be doing on their own. I should be able to patch up the software or have some sort of useful plugin to address the issue.

    So what is the solution then?

  8. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'm not going to go do research that the coders of the software should already be doing on their own.

    Right now, nothing is broken. If you want to add challenges to your site's registration, use a plugin.

  9. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Please explain, not sure what you mean.

  10. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

  11. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Do you know if these really work or was this just a random search for an anti-spam plugin? ( I hate wasting my time on shit that doesn't really work.)

    I already installed similar plugins that seem to be ignored and bypassed by bots.

  12. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Not personally, no. I simply grabbed reasonably looking reg plugins that looked like they might do the job as examples. You may have to to do some further searching and testing to find one that suits your needs. On my sites, I usually switch all registration off unless I have an overwhelming reason to want people to join as subscribers.

    That said, http://wordpress.org/plugins/stop-registration-spam/ looks interesting. Customisable Q& A challenges certainly work a lot better than captchas - especially if you change the question relatively frequently. I'd be surprised if there weren't a couple of other plugins like this lurking in the Plugin Repo. The ideal plugin, in my opinion, would be one that displayed a random Q&A challenge from a bank of questions that you had previously created and could customise.

  13. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    The register form I already have on the site (before the plugin you suggested) already prompts the user for email, confirmation of the email, a first name, a short description of who they are, a password with confirmation.

    I installed the first plugin you suggested, and re-enabled registration. and now after adding the first plugin you described they have to answer yet another question.

    esmi wrote:
    Not personally, no. I simply grabbed reasonably looking reg plugins that looked like they might do the job as examples. You may have to to do some further searching and testing to find one that suits your needs.

    That's what led me to recaptcha and the useless plugin I already have that challenges the user at registration.

    On my sites, I usually switch all registration off unless I have an overwhelming reason to want people to join as subscribers.

    That's fine for you and it's generally rude to invalidate the concern with "well I never use it"

    That's not addressing the issue.

    That said, http://wordpress.org/plugins/stop-registration-spam/ looks interesting/

    I don't need "interesting", I need fixed.

    Customisable Q& A challenges certainly work a lot better than captchas - especially if you change the question relatively frequently. I'd be surprised if there weren't a couple of other plugins like this lurking in the Plugin Repo. The ideal plugin, in my opinion, would be one that displayed a random Q&A challenge from a bank of questions that you had previously created and could customise.

    A solution to this issue is not hunting around for plugins that "maybe" will work.

  14. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    it's generally rude to invalidate the concern with "well I never use it"

    Where did I say that I was invalidating anything? I merely pointed out my own personal experience in this area. You know it really is self-defeating to bite the hand that is trying to feed you. I have tried to help but it seems that you only want confrontation. I don't, so I am now bowing out.

  15. miamitom
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    By the way see these two recommenedations for recaptcha as the first thing to come up on Google for registration spam:
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/new-user-registration-spam?replies=4
    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/suggestions-for-reducing-user-registration-spam?replies=6

  16. WPyogi
    Volunteer Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    If you're so unhappy with WP, perhaps you should find another platform that works better for you.

  17. esmi
    Forum Moderator
    Posted 1 year ago #

    @miamitom: since you seem unable to conduct a discussion in a reasonable & mature manner, this topic is now closed. Before posting again, I strongly recommend that you review http://codex.wordpress.org/Forum_Welcome with special reference to section 1.17.

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