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Share This Post (within Facebook) checked but not working (23 posts)

  1. multimule
    Member
    Posted 6 months ago #

    I have the checkbox Enable "Share This Post" (within Facebook) checked but when the automated Facebook post is created it doesn't have a Share option. The only options on the Facebook page for the post are: Like, Comment, and Read More.

    Any ideas or conflicting settings I might be running into or is this a bug in the plugin?

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wpbook/

  2. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

  3. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    I believe this is a Facebook limitation. Items added via the API (rather than by a logged in user actually posting a status update) don't get a share.

    Nothing I can do about it.

  4. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    not true (unless it changed very recently)I used 'Facebook Page Publish' until just a few weeks ago because I liked the comment cross pollination your plugin does.

    So did FB change very recently?

  5. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    No idea what Facebook Page Publish is doing, but I'll take a look.

  6. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Looks like that plugin is publishing the items as links - using the "/links" part of the graph API.

    (Facebook docs on link: http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/link/ )

    WPBook (and WPBook Lite) are posted using a FB Post object - see http://developers.facebook.com/docs/reference/api/post/

    I could explore in a later release allowing the user to choose to post links rather than posts - not sure what other differences there are between the two.

    Here's the bug report in FB about the share links: http://forum.developers.facebook.net/viewtopic.php?id=55258

  7. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Thank you Johneckman for taking the time to look into it :) I appreciate the effort.

  8. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    HEy TheCitizen are you using the Facebook Timeline yet?

    I'd be interested to see is posting to Facebook using the "Link" object as opposed to the "Post" object gets better results in terms of how it is displayed on the timeline.

  9. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    That does remind me. My personal account is using it and i noticed my last post got lumped together with a previous post out of order on my timeline, as opposed to posting the day it happened.
    So I would be happy to test, I will be writing another article today so i could test it out, if you have a test plugin ready.

  10. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Just posted on this issue on my blog. http://www.openparenthesis.org/2012/01/03/facebook-graph-api-post-versus-link

    Posting as Link relies heavily on the open graph metadata being in the right places on the target blog - you just pass of a URL and Facebook hits the URL to get the excerpt, image, and the like.

    Posting as Post offers more control / uses the data available in the post itself at the time of posting, without relying on the open graph metadata.

    Given how few blogs have decent open graph metadata in them (to check yours, just post a link to one of your posts on your own wall manually and see how accurate the metadata is FB pulls), I guess I'm likely to stick with posts.

    But do Links fare better in the newsfeed algorithm?

  11. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Links, from my site at least, look great, the question now is will the links still pull the comments back to the blog?

    in the end THAT is my reason behind using WPBook.

  12. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    I'd be able to import comments back the same way I do so for posts - with read_stream permission you can access the comments connection of the links object.

    But it is different enough that WPBook would need to know whether the object for which it is trying to get comments is a Link or a Post - the graph api call is different.

    I suppose I could first interrogate the object by type, then use the appropriate mechanism to pull comments.

    Time for a big update to WPBook I guess - now to find the time. ;)

  13. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 5 months ago #

    Sweet, i will be glad to test it out!
    Oh and when I get some cash this month i'll throw you some donation $$, even without the added features its still a great plugin!

  14. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    @TheCitizen Just tagged and released 2.3.1 - now offers choices.

    For Wall Posts (individual profile): post, note, or link

    For Groups/Pages: post or link

    If your blog's open graph metadata is good, you can use links instead of posts.

    Also looking at just adding the "Share" link as an action instead of "Read more" which is what WPBook currently adds as an action.

    Posts from the Graph API only get one "application defined" action.

  15. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    Excellent. Seems to work great. Am I missing a setting to have it only show the excerpt up to the <!more> tag?

    BTW You rock for adding this option!

  16. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    if you have a specific post excerpt defined, WPBook should use that.

    If you do not have an excerpt defined, or that excerpt is empty, WPBook calls $post_content, which should in this context provide the content up to the "more" tag (the "teaser")

    See http://codex.wordpress.org/Excerpt on Teaser, Excerpt, Automatic Excerpt.

    Is it not working for you that way? Maybe the problem is that since I'm loading a single post, the "more" tag just gets ignored?

  17. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    Seems like there is a solution here using the global "more" tag.

    Hate to add another option, though, when there are already so many - maybe we should just default to posting the teaser (the part before the more tag) but still use excerpts if they exist?

  18. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    So on my profile timeline it is actually using the excerpt I specify in my SEO settings rather than the <!---more> tag which is really not a problem at all.

    On the Fan page the item is posted nearly complete (well maybe 1/2). And when i share that post I actually see the <!--more> tag and the text continues on for the same about 1/2 of the article.

  19. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    TheCitizen - can you provide links?

    Both the post to the page wall and the profile wall use the same excerpt, so I'm not sure why it should be any different - I'm sending the same content to FB in either case.

  20. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    http://www.facebook.com/#!/phil.brooks <- personal
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/One.Angry.Citizen <-- Fan

    http://oneangrycitizen.me/2012/01/illuminating-hypocrisy/ <--- the article posted yesterday that exhibits this behavior

  21. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    When I look at your profile timeline, I see a brief excerpt with a "see more" (which is put there by Facebook, not WPBook).

    When I look at the fan page, I see a brief excerpt (same as profile) with a "see more" but when I expand the "see more" I no longer can see the "more" link.

    Not sure why, since I'm sending the same in either case - it must be that Facebook is treating what it received differently.

    When you say "the excerpt I specify in my SEO settings" - are you using an SEO plugin?

    When I refer to the Excerpt I'm talking about the box right under the main post editing window, above "Send Trackbacks." If you define an excerpt there WPBook will use it.

  22. johneckman
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    Looks to me like you're posting to your profile as a link, but to the page as a post.

  23. TheCitizen
    Member
    Posted 4 months ago #

    I have verified both the page and profile are supposed to be posting as links. (According to the WPBook settings page)

    If you look the excerpt on the timeline is not the same as what is in the actual post. i use a SEO plugin and there is a plce in the post editor to add my own Description explicitly for SEO. The timeline is getting that description rather than an excerpt directly from the post. Not that that is a bad thing as the more tag excerpt is typically larger and the SEO one is more succinct designed for, well, search engine results..

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