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[resolved] Please stop updating daily! (23 posts)

  1. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Its too much... over the top.

    If you have security fixes cool... but why not update once a week or once every two weeks.

    I can't QA every single day and you're releasing updates one at a time which a lot of us don't use.

    We want the features... just not daily.

  2. daveligthart
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    It's free premium software. You do not HAVE to update, it's not mandatory.You can decide when you want to update or not.

    Next time please post something constructive that helps in the creational process.

    Thanks.

  3. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Next time please post something constructive that helps in the creational process.

    If you read the very first post in this thread... that's the best advice I can give you.

    there is such a thing as too much. It reminds our team of getting windows update patches to test in our environment daily.

    You've created a job :) lol.

    There really is an upside to releasing a few updates at once rather then one or two updates per day.

  4. daveligthart
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Ok point taken. I do understand your concern.
    It's not my intent to annoy anyone with update notifications. I see if I can limit myself to update on a weekly basis. Still I want everyone to enjoy the features as soon as possible. And provide the best view into the social media landscape. Suggestions to improve the plugin are highly appreciated.

  5. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    Hey I totally get it. You have a great product. And I can see from the number of downloads that a great amount of people are using it.

    And you have no competition really...so maybe its ok to slow down just a tiny bit. :) I really did not mean any offence so I apologize if I gave any.

    I would not use your product if I din't enjoy it...and the execs do like looking at the pretty numbers :)

  6. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'd like slightly fewer updates as well.

    Every time there is a WP-Stats-Dashboard update the admin side of my WordPress gets extremely sluggish.

    So I do 'have' to update WP dashboard (which takes a long time to load after pressing "updates" under Dashboard, that is if things don't time out) before I can do anything else.

    Having to do that every day is getting quite annoying.
    I love the plugin and appreciate your hard work, but I'd rather wait a week or 2 for new features than logging in and going

    "huh, things are hanging.. must be yet another WP Stats update" ;)

    (When the update is installed, everything is running fast again, and I don't have this problem when there are updates for other plugins)

  7. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'd like slightly fewer updates as well.

    Every time there is a WP-Stats-Dashboard update the admin side of my WordPress gets extremely sluggish.

    Hey there... Using FTP is much faster and cleaner. Updating via php is really taxing on dedicated servers... Especially if the package has a lot of files to overwrite.

    Also there can be an issue with servers hanging when updating because its all done via script.

    I ALWAYS download and apply updates via FTP. It only takes a few seconds to unzip and then upload a folder that way and FTP does all the error checking (which doesn't overuse your CPU).

  8. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I don't really know what you mean, but I do think I'm already updating through FTP?

    I go to my wp-admin page, login, hit "updates" and then it goes via FTP.
    I don't know of any other way to update or check for updates?

    And to get from the dashboard start page to the FTP part takes ages if it's a WP Stats update. All other plugins go fast.

  9. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    thats using the ftp protocal through a software client. Using a fat client is better and much less intensive. Scripts use a lot of CPU power.

    try downloading filezilla

  10. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I've already got FireFTP, but if WP Stats is the only plugin that slows things down I doubt it's CPU power that's the problem..

    I can upgrade and install all of WordPress without things slowing down.

    Also - the Dashboard shows me when there's an upgrade, installing it is one or two extra clicks (and I have to enter my FTP password there, so I'm guessing that goes through FTP already??)

    I'm trying to save time, not add time by circumventing the issue ;)

  11. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    your just not listening. lol... and you're talking quite intelligently about not listening too :)

    always upgrade through the fat client and you'll never have a problem. Upgrade via php script software and most likely you will.

    Scripts use a lot more resources then is necessary for error checking and other things.

    I generally download the plugins when I see update notifications, open filezilla, and update.

  12. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I'm listening, just not agreeing ;) and I think you might have misunderstood what's running slow?

    Updating. I think you mean I have to see that there's an update on my WP Dashboard, then download the new zip file by going to a webpage, unzip the file, and upload it to the plugin folder (overwriting the old) using FireFTP.

    I'm saying that is way more trouble than hitting two 'next/OK' buttons on the WordPress dashboard.

    I also don't think that won't fix my problem:

    It's the WP Dashboard itself that's sluggish/won't load. The page you get right after you logged in to wp-admin. (So before I do anything with updating and plugins)

    The update process itself (once I get to it) actually runs very fast, even through the 'slow' high CPU method. (and I have to admit that I don't really care that it's high CPU, that's what the thing is built to do ;) )

    When there is an available update for WP Stats, my WordPress Dashboard pretty much won't load. I log into my wp-admin and then things 'hang' and/or load extremely slow.

    It takes a long time to for example click on Posts or Pages and wait for the next page to load, UNTIL I have updated WP Stats. And then everything runs fine again.

    I do not have that problem at all with any of the other plugins and available updates for those, so I'm pretty sure something in the WP Stats plugin is causing the sluggishness.

  13. daveligthart
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Yes, thank you Mykkal. The fat client requires lesser resources. Try not updating through wordpress. Although by increasing memory on your server will solve the hangups you can contact your hosting provider about that.

  14. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    But it's not the updating process itself that I'm having problems with?

    (Also, if regardless of available updates the rest of my WordPress would play nice, I don't think I'd mind this amount of updates for WP Stats..)

  15. daveligthart
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    The problem is that when opening the wp-admin wordpress does all kinds of checks which slows the loading process somewhat. This has nothing specifically to do with the wp-stats-dashboard plugin.

  16. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    It's the WP Dashboard itself that's sluggish/won't load. The page you get right after you logged in to wp-admin. (So before I do anything with updating and plugins)

    The update process itself (once I get to it) actually runs very fast, even through the 'slow' high CPU method. (and I have to admit that I don't really care that it's high CPU, that's what the thing is built to do ;) )

    that would also depend on cpu power, priority to scripts, and bandwidth.
    If you're on a 10mb card serving decent traffic and querying all those hosts it would probably take a bit longer to crunch the bits than with a 100mb or 1gb card.

    And thats sssuming your hardware is capable.

    Might have to consider that these networks get a lot of requests and have their own limitations too.

    I dunno... maybe the author can speed somethings up but i'm not sure how. my apologies for misunderstanding earlier.

  17. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    But why then is the WP stats the only plugin where things get slow if there's an update? (And why are things fast when there's no update - doesn't the wp-admin thingie do all the same checks then?)

    And: how can I fix it?

  18. daveligthart
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    Well the update process doesn't make a distinction how it handles updates for specific plugins. If things slow down on a update this will account for every plugin that has one.

  19. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @mykkal - thanks!
    Can't say much about the server hardware other than:
    My host is antagonist.nl, they offer WordPress through Installatron and I've never had any downtime of issues, so I'm guessing their hardware is good and fully compatible.

    My own hardware : 3 GHz, 2 GB RAM, DSL Website dataplan is 10 GB of space, 100 GB data per month. Don't have a lot of visitors (yet?) so well below that data/month ;)

  20. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    But why then is the WP stats the only plugin where things get slow if there's an update? (And why are things fast when there's no update - doesn't the wp-admin thingie do all the same checks then?)

    Are you using a caching program? I had to configure w3 cache not to cache the admin section.

    Thats a pretty advanced one. Some are so simple that they cache the admin pages by default. If thats happening with you chances are you should be experiencing the slowness but aren't :)

    Before I had to clear my cache to enjoy the slow dashboard. Now i'm guaranteed one every time.

    But I don't think you can speed it up. Maybe the developer could design a separate stats page to view all the modules on.

    That would keep the default view of tha admin page kinda quick. I don't view stats every time I hit the dashboard anyways.

    And: how can I fix it?

    So many variables affect this that aren't even having to do directly with the script. no idea...but like I said, maybe the developer can optimize it more or create configurable page in the admin for the time consuming modules to load on.

  21. daveligthart
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 3 years ago #

    I will take the suggestion for the configurable page into consideration.

  22. Mike McKoy
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    I will take the suggestion for the configurable page into consideration.

    Thanks Dave!

  23. corienb
    Member
    Posted 3 years ago #

    @Dave - and that's the problem. Things do not slow down at all when there are other updates, only for WP stats. (I'm happy to give you login details if you want to check things out next time you release an update ;) )

    Installed plugins for one site are:

    *Akismet
    *All in One SEO Pack
    *FormBuilder
    Google XML Sitemaps
    IP-to-Country
    Maintenance Mode
    *My Category Order
    *My Page Order
    *Page Links To
    PayPal Donations
    Simple Download Monitor
    *WordPress.com Stats
    *WordPress Database Backup
    *WP-Stats-Dashboard
    WP e-Commerce Plugin
    *WP Google Analytics
    WP Hide Categories

    (my plugins differ for some of my other sites, but the WP Stats hangs on all of them..* is what I think most of my 3 sites have installed)

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