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[resolved] [Plugin: WP SlimStat] SlimStat and privacy (9 posts)

  1. johannes.b
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hi,
    my name is Johannes and I'm from Germany.
    I like SlimStat very much and so I decided to use it instead of Piwik, but I have a little problem that I'd like you to help me with:
    We have very strict laws about data privacy here in Germany.
    To make sure that the usage of SlimStat isn't illegal in this case, I have to meet the following requirements:
    - The IP of the user has to be anonymized (e.g. the last two numbers cannot be seen,
    I think this is possible, but I just did'nt find out how.
    - The user needs to have a possibility to opt-out of cookies being saved on his computer. Piwik realizes this by giving this code that I can paste in my Privacy Policy:
    <iframe frameborder="no" width="600px" height="200px" src="http://www.example.com/x_piwik/index.php?module=CoreAdmin Home&action=optOut"></iframe>
    This includes a little frame that says "Your visits are currently tracked by Piwik. Click here to opt-out" (or something like that)
    -Additionally, the durability (hope that this word is correct for the lifespan of cookies in English)of the tracking-cookie has to be set to a very short time, e.g. one week

    I know that these are a lot of questions or wishes at once, but I hope that it's understandable that I don't want to break the law using SlimStat. I appreciate your help and I think that all other german users (or users who live in a country with similar law) agree with me when I say this.

    Greetings,
    Johannes

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-slimstat/

  2. camu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    Hello Johannes,

    thank you so much for your feedback and ideas on how to improve WP SlimStat! Let me address your concerns about Germany's privacy policies.

    1. this feature had already been requested a while ago; it will be implemented soon, maybe even in 2.8.1, if I can. It will mask the last part of the IP addresses recorded by WP SlimStat, which will then look like 123.213.84.0

    2. I had never thought about that, but a WordPress shortcode could definitely be the solution here: you would paste something like [wp-slimstat-optout] to embed a link similar to Piwik's. That would actually set a new cookie, which would allow WP SlimStat to remember that user's choice. Is that how Piwik works?

    3. WP SlimStat tracking cookie, like Google's, expires in 30 minutes. WordPress' cookie, though, has a much longer duration, so you may be worried about that :)

    Please let me know what you think!

    Camu

  3. camu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    PS: a vote for my plugin would be a nice way to say thank you!

  4. johannes.b
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Thank you, questions 1 and 3 are completely answered :)

    When you embed the iFrame that Piwik gives you, a little text with information about the Cookie is given ("You can decide here if your browser installs a tracking cookie with allows the admin to. […] Please click the following checkbox for diabling this option"). Then, under that, there is a little, checkbox (with an x in it if the user did not use opt-out yet) and behind the checkbox it says "Your visits are currently tracked by Piwik, click to opt-out" or "Your visits are currently not tracked by Piwik, click here to opt-in" if the user had already used opt-out.
    And yes, as far as i know, this sets an opt-out-cookie for this user.

    And another idea (not really necessary, but making the 'legal' usage of SlimStat easier):
    Lawyers recommend that the possibiity to opt-out doesn't only have to be offered in the privacy policy of the page, but it also has to be shown noticeable and striking when users visit the page for the first time (not on every visit), e.g by showing it under the top menu with black font on yellow background. It doesn't need to have the checkbox there, just a little hint like "This site uses cookies to count visitors, to opt-out, click here", linking to the privacy policy.
    I think (or hope) it isn't too complicated to create and include this, but I have to admit that I'm really not very goot at coding ;-)

    Of course I already voted 5/5 for SlimStat. It's really great and you support is very helpful.

    Johannes

  5. camu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    And another idea (not really necessary, but making the 'legal' usage of SlimStat easier):
    Lawyers recommend that the possibiity to opt-out doesn't only have to be offered in the privacy policy of the page, but it also has to be shown noticeable and striking when users visit the page for the first time (not on every visit), e.g by showing it under the top menu with black font on yellow background.

    This is something that cannot be developed at the plugin level, since there's a gazillion different themes and configurations out there: each site owner should implement such a thing depending on his/her setup.

    Thank you for your vote and... stay tuned for a new version of WP SlimStat fully compatible with Germany's Privacy laws.

    Cheers,
    Camu

  6. johannes.b
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Oh, I didn't think of themes with this idea…. Yes, I guess you're right.
    Thank you very much for your time.

    Looking forward to the new version,
    Johannes

  7. camu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    Anonymization has been added, and will be available in WP SlimStat 2.8.1 :) As for the shortcode, that will come at a later time.

    Best,
    Camu

  8. johannes.b
    Member
    Posted 2 years ago #

    Great :-)

  9. camu
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 2 years ago #

    Would you be interested in previewing the new 2.8.1? It's not 'stable' yet, but maybe you could help me test the feature you had requested, along with the other ones I'm planning to add. Also, another user is requesting a much stricter approach

    http://wordpress.org/support/topic/plugin-wp-slimstat-possible-to-suppress-cookies?replies=5

    Would you mind joining the conversation there to discuss what would be the best approach?

    Thanks,
    Camu

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