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[resolved] Great Plugin - Feature Request - if I may - text editor/pagination (7 posts)

  1. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I like this plugin and the way it gives you heads up while it it processing with no page loads. I would like to see 3 features added:

    A - a simple text editor for non coders

    B -thread responses indented like you see on Youtube

    C - pagination with page numbers as links

    Congratulations on an appealing, intelligent and well behaved commenting plugin.

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-ajaxify-comments/

  2. janjonas
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi DonDsy,

    Thanks for your feedback. I'm not sure if I understand your three points correctly but I think your suggestions are out of the plugin's scope.
    There are other plugins that add additional functionality to your comment form and pagination and indention should be implemented in the theme.
    Please correct me, if I miss something...

    Regards,
    Jan

  3. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi Jan,

    There are 2 schools of thought for plugin that works closely with page layout:

    A - Formatting should be a part of the theme template and not the plugin

    B - Create the formatting/CSS and page layout as part of the plugin option

    The first makes perfect sense however to better market plugins to an ever growing user base of non coders, a plugin which comes bundled with its own CSS files and layout would fit those who are not coders. Coder of course, would over ride these setting if they wished.

    If you are ever wanting to create premium WordPress plugins, you best appeal to the non coder (author) and the WP coder. There are other plugins that compete with WP-Ajaxify-Comments and have pagination page layout options. I rather use WP-Ajaxify-Comments as it works straight out - and I like the real-time status. This would be a strong candidate for a WP plugin product review at Talking Manuals if it had the non-coder in mind.

    Regards,

    Ron

  4. janjonas
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi Ron,

    Thanks again for your comment. I think WP-Ajaxify-Comments targets also none-coders and coders. In most cases it works out-of-the-box with the default options and integrates smoothly in almost any theme.
    Advanced users can use the layout options to customize the look and feel and in the most recent version (0.6.x) an option was integrated that enables coders to add some custom JavaScript.

    IMHO, pagination and styling the comments should be part of the theme. Putting this features into the plugin would add much more complexity to add compatibility to any theme.

    Do you have any examples for WP-Ajaxify-Comments competitors that adds pagination and layout options?

    Jan

  5. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi Jan,

    A competing plugin: http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-comment-master/
    has a built in pagination feature. Be great to have the responses to a comment be indented.:)

    Ron

  6. janjonas
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi Ron,

    Thanks for answer and thanks for the link. IMHO, the problem of the pagination feature is, that it may not fit perfectly into every layout/theme.
    What do you think about an option to enable "infinite scrolling" for comments? See http://www.jquery4u.com/demos/infinite-scrolling-demo5/ for a demo.

    Regards,
    Jan

  7. RonDsy
    Blocked
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Hi again Jan,

    The short answer: make it for both, for the non coder and coder alike. Offer an enable/disable tick switch so that the packaged function for indentation and pagination would be available. If the packaged functions do not work right off for a particular theme, then do not enable the built in template. Design it for pages which does not have any DIV tags populated by the WP Template/theme.

    About the Infinite Scroll Example:
    The infinite scroll I think would be a nightmare on earth.:) There needs to be some kind of formatting (relief) for the responses like indenting, otherwise, it just a bottomless pit that would even make a seasoned mountain climber dizzy. (haha)

    Using a Template which does not populate the use of the DIV tag within the page container

    If you allow a plugin like Ether Content Builder to manage a the content of a page instead of the packaged template/theme, I see where possibly your plugin would fit neatly within Ether Builder as a WP module/widget. This would mean that the supplied CSS and templates for both pagination and indentation of replies for comments, could be managed by Ether Content Builder.

    Ether is built on the bases that page content stay empty of template DIV tags, no columns. Each page is the canvas to set multiple columns using Ether Content Builder. The WP template/theme would only need to stay out of the page container. In setting up a WP template/theme you would set columns to: none.

    Based upon that policy, the template for setting commenting would not intrude on the WP template which keeps the template's DIV tags out of the pages and therefore, the results would be consistent. The WP template or WP template engine simply manages the header/footer/wrapper areas. Ether Content Builder manages the page layout, page composition, (using TinyMCE) WP widgets (placed anywhere on a page) and Ether Content Builder's modules. The template used at Talking Manuals is not managing the page container, Ether Content Builder is managing the majority of that site.

    Regards,

    Ron

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