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[Plugin: W3 Total Cache] Better than WP Super Cache? (14 posts)

  1. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    I'm currently using WP Super Cache and my page loads are still high. Is this plugin considerably better?

    Does it defeat the need for me to use:

    Gzippy or WP Minify?

  2. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Errr dangit. I just downloaded it and this is the same thing as WP Super Cache....

    The plugin hasn't seemed to improve anything. Any ideas?

  3. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Here is the website I'm testing it out on:

    http://www.netbookreviews.com

    Any suggestions / can you tell if it's working? I have WP Super Cache, WP Minify and Gzippy installed but when I run the Page Speed plugin for Firefox I still get errors saying things could be greatly improved.

    I already reduced the number of posts that display on the home page from 8 to 5 and I've gone through my theme and replaced the php calls with direct URLs to the files. I've even gone through and made sure the width and height parameters were set for every image used in the style as well.

  4. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    They are definitely not the same thing. Perhaps you need to read about it - it seems you're not using the options. As soon as you install it your site is at least 50x faster. Some additional tweaks are required on a per case basis to do more if you need to.

    http://loadimpact.com/blog/wordpress-load-test-part-2-amendment
    http://da.clausheinrich.com/w3-total-cache-wordpress/

    Or testimonials:

    http://twitter.com/w3edge/favorites

  5. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hey Frederick,

    Ok I see my mistake (noob move I looked in the wrong file folder). My question though is do I still need to use Gzippy or WP-minify as well? Or is that functionality already built into the site?

    Chris

  6. senator94
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Did you even look at the option? You can gzip and minify html, css and js files.

    My site servers 140k pages daily. I out grew WP Super Cache and moved onto W3 Total Cache using memcached for my pages and APC cache for database.

    Minified using memcached
    Page Caching using memcached
    Database Caching 28/35 queries in 0.011 seconds using apc

  7. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Thanks @senator94.

    Yes @thehalogod, both of those (and much) more is already built in.

  8. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Hey Senator,

    I didn't want to activate the plugin while I had everything else running for fear of some sort of problem. I'm deactivating my old plugins now and moving onto this one then :D

    If this works as great as everyone says it does (which I suggest it does) you may be getting a nice gift from me.

  9. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Update: Ok so the plugin is installed, but I don't have PHP 5 installed (Doh! didn't know it was a requirement...)

    In any case I have the following settings used:

    Page Caching: Enable
    Page Caching Method: Disk (enhanced)
    HTTP Compression: gzip and deflate (best)

    Minifiy: Not enabled (requires PHP 5)

    Database Caching: Enable
    Database Caching Method: Disk

    CDN: Not enabled (don't have one... yet)

    The rest of the settings are all the default ones.

    I don't see a huge improvement though; however, I don't have PHP 5 I know. (I can work on getting this installed... is there a downside to installing it?)

    In fact, I'm still showing about a 12 second load time in Firefox when I hit the refresh button and use the Firebug "net" tab (Could it be because of no PHP 5 though?)

    I also tried running the Page Speed Google plugin and it still lists out several things I could improve:

    Red:
    Leverage Browser Caching
    Combine External JavaScript
    MinifiyCSS
    Optimize the order of styles and scripts

    Yellow:
    Enable gzip compression
    Minimize DNS lookups
    Combine External CSS
    Specify image dimensions
    Minimize redirects
    Remove unused CSS
    Serve static content from a cookieless domain
    Minimize cookie size
    Use efficient CSS selectors

    Suggestions / ideas beyond getting PHP 5 installed? (Can't it break some stuff if PHP 4 is what I'm using now and everything works?)

  10. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Page caching reduces execution time, i.e. the response time from the server. W3TC compresses that response for a faster download as well. So while W3TC does provide the means to scale WordPress far beyond what any other solution can provide, it cannot resolve all uses cases in a single step; nothing does. PHP 4.3 is 7 years old, upgrading is not really optional. I can't speak to what could break, I have no idea what is running on your site.

    As it stands you're still not doing any HTML, JS or CSS minification whatsoever.

    If you're like more personalized responses those can be requested by using the support tab in the plugin, which will give me an idea of your server config and other relevant details to your situation.

    The feedback you're getting from Google Page Speed goes far beyond issues that caching solutions provide.

  11. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    So until I upgrade to PHP 5 I will not have any HTML, JS or CSS minifying? (makes sense).

    I basically just run WordPress blogs. I'll talk to my server management team about upgrading to PHP 5.

    To your last point: is that something that your premium service helps out with? The Yellow issues I'm not as concerned about. It's mainly the Red ones. I do need to increase the speed at which my site loads though as I worry about the influence page load has on search engine rankings and it's affect on me.

  12. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Yes I offer professional services, you can use the support tab in the plugin to reach me.

  13. thehalogod
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Just sent a ticket

  14. Frederick Townes
    Member
    Posted 4 years ago #

    Ok.

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