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nice product but (11 posts)

  1. scruffy1
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    This is a nice product but

    I don't like the amount of pushing and smack in the face buy pro etc this is just shameless, you even break WP rules with the display on the plugins page, this again is not cool
    please be less aggressive with your promos and pushing to make money from this plugin and people will respect you more and buy the pro version without you slamming it in my face all the time

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/ultimate-tinymce/

  2. Josh (WP Edit)
    Moderator and Editor Customizer
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Seriously?? One small link to show there is a Pro version? Shameless?? Hmmm... six months on development of a fantastic plugin, which I offer extremely personal (free) customer support; a support forum actively maintained solely by myself; a stable, reliable product which is free from malicious code or security vulnerabilities....

    I'd say that's not shameless at all.

    Trust me... I've seen other plugins which are much more aggressive with their "advertising".

    Okay... I'll make an option to dismiss that link, which is only found in the admin panel by the way, in the next update.

  3. scruffy1
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    it is not the link, but the update top line is the pro, the plugin on the plugins page is highlighted no-one else is highlighting theirs

    the page for settings is all about selling more

    like I say it is a good product, but you need to ease down on the promo part of it, as it is starting to look like it is all about promo

    I have no problems spending money but I don't want a plugin to be mainly about upgrading, I installed this to test, but I feel like you are pushing it too hard.

    you need to comply with WP rules, why is yours the only plugin which has a big highlight bar across it on the plugin page? there is a link on that to donate and buy pro, just 1 is enough we get the hint you want to sell it understandable but it is too much towards that.

    you can oversell you know

  4. Josh (WP Edit)
    Moderator and Editor Customizer
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I certainly appreciate your concern, and I can understand how everyone may interpret the situation differently... but I do have a right to add a link to a pro version.. should I desire.

    The highlight can be disabled via the admin panel. I'll work on putting a list together of other plugins doing this (without the option to remove it, I might add), so that you can see for yourself that mine is not the only plugin doing this.

    The plugin has been reviewed by multiple wordpress guru's... and falls under compliance.

    I apologize you feel this way.. and my intentions are certainly not to make anyone miserable with the plugin. If you would like me to make you a custom version with this removed... I'd be happy to do so.

  5. mikeotgaar
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    @scruffy1
    The branding and links do NOT breaking WordPress.org rules. The plugin is fully functional without buying the PRO version (unlike many others in the repository). Anyone can modify and adapt the plugin as required under GPL2 license rules.

    The highlighting of the plugin in plugin list can be EASILY turned off from the admin page (which I rather like as it makes the plugin easy to find - and I would like to see more of this) Perhaps not including the link in the styling disable option was an oversight.

    Developers like Josh donate hundreds of hours of their time to create and support plugins like UTMCE, then GIVE THEM AWAY. (Some plugin developers don't even offer free support for their complex and well developed plugins - if there's a problem, users have to pay them for help. And WordPress allows this too!
    Without Developers like Josh, many of the plugins for WordPress would be purely commercial - pay for each one - and look at all the branding you get with many of the purely commercial plugins and themes.+

    Personally, I would OBJECT to a lot of branding if I purchased a plugin and couldn't turn off this branding. Under those circumstances I would feel the right to have no branding as I've PAID for the product.

    Sorry to butt-in Josh, scruffy1's remarks just seemed totally ungrateful to me.

  6. Josh (WP Edit)
    Moderator and Editor Customizer
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thank you, Mike.

    This did upset me. But, you know what they say...

    "You can please ALL the people SOME of the time.... SOME of the people ALL of the time... but you can NEVER please ALL the people ALL of the time".

    I do my best, though, to please them all, all of the time ;)

    You also make a lot of great points above!

  7. ronbme
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'd like to put my two cents in here also.

    Josh has put in countless hours not just in developing great plugins but also in responding to user inquiries, even if it had nothing to do with his plugin. And he even created a forum for users to report any bugs or just needing help.

    I don't think a proper reward for all his labors is for someone to take cheap shots at him. I find that those who contribute the least, complain the most. Just an observation.

    I see plenty of abandoned plugins. I wonder how many of those were because of people who felt compelled to complain instead of helping towards development?

    Personally, I don't spend all of my time looking at my directory of plugins or themes, so this is non-issue for me.

    Ron

  8. Josh (WP Edit)
    Moderator and Editor Customizer
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thanks Ron.

    I'm curious to hear what other people have to say too. I have no problem redesigning the admin interface of the plugin. I do intend to keep the link to my pro version there... but I'm certainly open to suggestions.

    So, if anyone else using ultimate tinymce happens to read this.. and feels like "chiming in"... please do so.

  9. Josh (WP Edit)
    Moderator and Editor Customizer
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    Perhaps not including the link in the styling disable option was an oversight.

    Yes it was. Mike... Ron... you all are supposed to get on me and tell me I missed this ;)

    (Fixed in version 3.1)

  10. allanit
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    @scruffy1 Boo Hoo!! get over your self.

    @Josh keep up the fantastic work I love your plugin and if you want to do a little advertising for the pro version go right a head. How else will anyone know it exists.

  11. Josh (WP Edit)
    Moderator and Editor Customizer
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    How else will anyone know it exists.

    Amen, Brother!!

    Be sure to check out the affiliate program also :)

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