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  1. idleberg
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    it's really annoying that twitter tools 3.0 request the installation of another plugin, why would i want to do that (and potentially slow down my site)? is there any good reason for this policy?

    http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/twitter-tools/

  2. underclass
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    +1
    Twitter Tools also seems to not be 'broadcasting' automatically which is kind the whole point of having this plugin for me, why isn't this working anymore?

  3. Ben
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Not only does it not appear to broadcast (I haven't written a new post since "upgrading" this afternoon to check that), but it doesn't seem to download tweets to display in the widget or anywhere else.

    This upgrade is essentially just beta software, it should've been tested a little more before release.

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything it claims it does and it's definitely stopped doing things it did before. I'll be looking around for another Twitter plugin if this isn't fixed soon. Which is a shame, because Twitter Tools has real potential.

  4. Ben
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I can now confirm that the digest option is definitely absent too. So the plugin has gone from functional to useless. :(

  5. Ben
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Ignore my previous entry, instead read this:

    http://alexking.org/blog/2012/10/11/twitter-tools-3-0

    Then scroll down through the comments to the one by @joanpla which reveals one of the undocumented settings that needs to be activated. That comment is here:

    http://alexking.org/blog/2012/10/11/twitter-tools-3-0#comment-289447

    It says: "Thanks a lot! But just in case it helps somebody: I upgrade Twitter Tools (600 tweets were upgraded succesfully) but then I realized my tweets didn’t get posted. Finally I found out I had to enable Twitter Tools clicking in my twitter username (inside Twitter Tools wordpress settings page). I think it’s hard to find it… Actually I found it out after seeing the screencast in the plugin directory.
    As I said, thanks a lot, man, truly."

    I'm now trying another update and we'll see what happens.

  6. rdavisphoto
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    This piece of fucking junk just totally sucks now! I've installed Social but can't link it to my twitter or facebook. When I try to link I just get a page not found error.

    I guess it's free so I got what I paid for but I certainly expected more from Mailchimp.

    This plugin is now a useless pile of steaming dog crap, make that monkey crap.

  7. Alex King
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    I'm pretty sure it doesn't do anything it claims it does

    It's been working exactly as designed and expected on my site for about a year now. :)

  8. idleberg
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    i'd probably more understanding for a (new?) plugin that integrates all the features of social and twitter tools, with add-ins for each of the features

  9. Ben
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    It's been working exactly as designed and expected on my site for about a year now. :)

    Maybe so, but 2.x has been working perfectly on my site and it only stopped working following the upgrade. In fact, the only thing it did successfully was convert the 5,000+ tweets already stored by my site to the current form.

    The last tweet from that point is here:

    http://www.adversary.org/wp/?aktt_tweet=256008758667382784

    There are 3 more tweet-like entries following that created through the Dashboard, but it turned out that they weren't actually sent to twitter.com. You can see from my actual twitter stream that there have been tweets since the upgrade which have not been accessed via Twitter Tools, including one addressed to you.

  10. rdavisphoto
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    So after a couple of hours messing around, searching web forums and several chat sessions with Hostgator to modify some security rules I was able to connect my profiles. Haven't made a post yet to see how it's working now.

  11. rdavisphoto
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Oh, and my problems have been with the 'social' plugin, not the Twitter Tools plugin.

  12. sannoble
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Thank you rdavisphoto for saying what I would be too polite to say.

    I installed social plugin, but am unable to "add account". So social won't work and consequently twitter tools won't work. Twitter tools no longer shows the hashtag option or link shortening info.

    Guess I have to do it manually.

  13. rdavisphoto
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    So it's kind of depressing. No more bit.ly integration and link shortening, anther admin page to navigate when you push submit and more hoops to jump through if you schedule your posts. Not progress from my perspective.

  14. apuley
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    100% broken - 500 errors all around. Also, we have tried Social on multisite before and the user creation mentality on WordPress is ludicrous. Why would I want people who comment on my wordpress blog to become potential members? Does that make any sense?

  15. Alex King
    Member
    Plugin Author

    Posted 1 year ago #

    A number of the assumptions in this thread are wrong, you may want to read this: http://alexking.org/blog/2012/10/12/twitter-tools-3-0-faq

  16. sannoble
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    to Alex King, your article is not totally correct either. I am forced to use Social. Twitter tools is automatically deactivated until I installed the plugin. And it still won't work unless I add account in Social. And as I said before, I am unable to add account. I keep getting errors. So now I have 2 plugins on my site which do not work.

    New twitter tool features don't help me if I can't get it to even work. Saying that twitter tools works on your site is irrelevant and is not helping me getting it working.

  17. fncll
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Alex: I would recommend making it clearer that in the Twitter Tools settings you have to click on the particular rectangular box for the Twitter account to actually enable it! I finally discovered it after a lot of delving around when I finally found this thread.

    Of course now that I *know* I have to do that, it's stunningly obvious :)

  18. Ben
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Ah, but does it actually work for you once it is enabled? Does it actually download the tweets of the relevant account?

  19. isensmith
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    i have pretty much all the same complaints as you guys and wrestled with these two plugins for hours last night. eventually i did get social to connect to my twitter account (i was logged into the account at the time, i think that helped). i dont want the new features of Social that lets my visitors create accounts on my site so in the Advanced Options of Social i turned that off.
    in the twitter tools settings i did have to pick my account i had just hooked up in Social and even after that it still didn't work until i clicked it again which opened up further options including a checkbox for 'enable twitter toos' (seemed a bit redundant since i was in the settings for twitter tools, one would think that's implied.)

    for those having trouble with the broadcasting portion of Social, i have no advice since i long ago stopped using Twitter Tools for that service. I didn't like it's facebook push so i use Facebook Page Publish. I was using it for twitter push until i set up custom URL shortening for my site with Yourls. The only reason i still had Twitter Tools was for the twitter feed sidebar widget as it was by far the best for that.

    only thing now is, you used to be able to tweet directly from your sidebar widget if you were logged into the site. this was super convenient as you didn't need to log out of your own account if you had twitter already open. this is gone now and it was 50% of the whole reason i used this plugin.

  20. isensmith
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    correction: Social's user-creation feature is not turned off in Advanced Options, i was remembering wrong. i turned off broadcasting there since, as described, i already have other solutions for that. i did turn off the comment display too, as it's not compatible with my theme.

  21. Roar
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I don't get why it says it has been working for a year when this is the first time a plugin upgrade ever completely borked my site.

    But I will trust Alex and walk through all of this and see if it works again.

  22. kitsunesniper
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Yeah, I came here to complain, I refuse to let an application I've never heard of permission to modify my profile. That's just... too much for me.

    Sorry, I just went back to 2.4 and I'm sticking to it.

  23. M Asif Rahman
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Version 2.4 will not help. Its all about Twitter actually. Alex already responded and clear things. Twitter shutdown the old API endpoint on October 11. So all plugins like Twitter Tools was not working. And it will not work anymore. What Alex did is a simple try and start of a new process to make it work. If you want to complain do that with Twitter. Here Alex is the guy who made this wonderful plugin, he have to be thankful to him. He is still trying to get this around.

  24. CreativeWP
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Rahman, you are right. Thanks alexkingorg for creating this tool! I hope it gets fixed, but even if it does not, thanks Mate!

  25. MarkRH
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    If you use 2.4, making the following changes to twitter_tools.php that are mentioned in this thread: http://wordpress.org/support/topic/twitter-tools-api-compatibility?replies=9 to use the 1.1 API URLs that might get most everything working again.

    I made the change and it started importing my tweets again.

    The only parts of Twitter Tools I used were the tweet importing to make a Twitter Digest (which I ended up writing my own script to create using the information in the database and haven't used Twitter Tools to do this in a long time) and sending out a tweet when I made a post. I only had the main piece activated. The other three (bitly, hashtag, ?) were not activated.

    Anyway, since then I've written my own script to parse my Twitter timeline using the Twitter API and moved the tweet data to a separate database out of my blog's database and have removed Twitter Tools.

    It's not Alex's fault. What Twitter did also broke Pandora Radio a few days ago as their Twitter Sharing mechanism comes up with "Twitter Not Found" now. LOL.

  26. kitsunesniper
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Is there no other available tool than Social? I really don't want it to be able to modify my Twitter profile.

  27. docpop
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    Adding my two cents: I noticed Twitter tools stopped working with the update and was now asking me to add Social plugin. I added Social and noticed that when it was activated my Disqus comments stopped working.

    A little poking around showed that this is a known issue with Social integration.

    So my choice now is either Twitter tools or Disqus comments.

  28. ScrltOTara
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I agree, the Social plugin makes me grant it permission to modify my Twitter profile and sign me up to follow whomever it wants to. Way too invasive.

  29. DragonDreamz
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    UPDATE. A little while after posting this, I went into my dashboard again. There was suddenly a new section called TWEETS under the options menu section that had not been there after the upgrade, until I'd closed down and reopened my site several times. I looked in there, and all my more recent tweets were present in that section, though they still were not showing in the widget on my blog.

    So, I went to the widget section under Appearance, opened that widget, and, not changing anything, just clicked Save again.

    All of my current Tweets then showed up in the footer when I reloaded the page.

    Haven't a clue why it fixed itself ... but I thought I would post this update to what I wrote earlier (see below) in case it helps someone else, too.
    ===========

    I hate to just say "me too", but "me too"....

    I've done pretty much everything described above. Social is now installed, my Twitter account entered and activated, the tweets in the database updated, etc....

    Twitter Tools is still only displaying my tweets up to Oct 11th, and will not pull in anything more recent than that into the widget display on my website (www.gazehound.com). It's all I use it for -- just displaying what I tweet elsewhere as I use that to keep up to the minute with my clients.

    I've tried pretty much everything that everyone has suggested in the various threads complaining about the most recent update requiring Social. All I want is for current info to be displayed in that widget.

    Has anyone actually gotten the most recent update of this plugin to actually pull in current tweets?

  30. DavidFerrington
    Member
    Posted 1 year ago #

    I too can not see any tweets in the widget - the main reason I wanted this. And it's not creating posts from tweets either. It is creating tweets from posts, but they do show up in the widget etc.

    Has anyone figure this out?

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